A chartered military plane crashes after take off.

The flames were impossible to extinguish

A witness saw weapons and ammo boxes

CASE DETAILS

On December 11th 1985, the 101st Airborne unit of the U.S. Army left Cairo, Egypt, on a chartered Arrow Air DC-8. They were going home to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, after a six-month peacekeeping mission in the Sinai. After one stop in Germany, they landed for refueling at the Gander Airport, in Newfoundland, Canada.  Just after takeoff, the DC-8 suddenly crashed, killing 248 soldiers. Wreckage was strewn over nearly a quarter mile.

Almost immediately, a terrorist organization, Islamic Jihad, claimed responsibility. But U.S. Army officials quickly dismissed the possibility of terrorist involvement. Later, a Canadian Board of Inquiry stated that ice on the plane’s wings had brought it down.

Harvey Day, rescue worker

However, four of the board’s nine members publicly disagreed, insisting that ice didn’t cause the crash. Aeronautical Engineer Les Filotas was one of the dissenting board members:

“There was certainly some kind of an explosion. A small explosion that disabled the control system. But what caused that explosion, whether it was sabotage or whether it was the accidental detonation of some kind of military equipment that was carried against regulations, we really don’t have a better idea than we had in 1988.”

To the four dissenting board members, the crash itself seemed highly irregular. Usually, in a takeoff crash, large sections of the plane remain intact, and many passengers can survive. But at Gander, according to Les, the wreckage was extremely fragmented and no one survived:

“A normal kind of take-off accident can be quite serious and can involve a fire, but basically, the aircraft isn’t completely destroyed.”

Wreckage suggests explosion inside plane

The U.S. Government strongly denied that either explosives or ammunition were carried as cargo. However, eyewitness reports from the Cairo airport contradict the government’s claim. They say that several large wooden boxes were loaded onto the airplane. Many believe the boxes contained some type of classified weapons. One of the rescue workers, Harvey Day, said he saw five wooden boxes at the Gander crash site:

“I decided to walk down to see what was in this area. And I saw five large wooden boxes.  They were black, a bit burnt from the fire, and I saw things like missiles, and little metal boxes, they looked like ammunition boxes. And it was all piled up very neatly into this cordoned off area.”

Day said he also saw an unusual pile of wreckage burning out of control. Two firefighters were trying to put it out with water:

“And the minute he took the water away, it just flared back up again. And he said, ‘We have to do this until it burns out or it cools down to the point where we can remove what’s there.”

Robert Cox, “ … it got to be rather scary.”

Within weeks, Harvey and several other rescue workers began to complain of health problems. The symptoms sounded suspiciously like radiation poisoning. Robert Cox is the president of the Union of Canadian Transport Employees:

“I think we had over thirty members who described some type of malady or sickness as a result of the crash. They range from liver problems to what people thought were heart attacks, and just general illnesses. And this is what was checked out and it got to be rather scary.”

Harvey Day said he received some disturbing health news:

“When the medical reports came in, the receptionist called me. And I went to him, and I’ll never forget this, he said, ‘Harvey, how much do you drink?’  I said, ‘Pardon me?’ He said, ‘How much do you drink?’  I said, ‘I don’t drink. Why?’ He said, ‘You’ve got a liver that is equivalent to somebody who’s been drinking excessively for 20 years or more.’ I couldn’t believe what he said.”

According to one unnamed source, the U.S. government sealed its records of the crash for seventy years. However, several government agencies, including the Department of Defense and the National Transportation Safety Board, deny that any such records exist.
Doug Phillips is the father of one of the crash victims:

“The files on the Gander incident would not be sealed for seventy years if it was simply ice. We know that there had to be something politically embarrassing that could have been very harmful to the Reagan administration that had to be covered up.”

Zona Phillips stepson died in the crash:

“As one family member put it, she wants to know if her family member died protecting this country or if he died because our government was protecting itself.”

U.S. government investigators did appear to behave strangely. For one thing, the crash site was bulldozed within three months, a highly unusual practice. The U.S. Army says it was done simply to discourage souvenir hunters. As a rule, downed airplanes are reassembled in order to study the crash. But in a highly unusual move, authorities quickly buried wreckage from the Gander site in a dump.

Dr. Douglas Phillips and his wife Zona were troubled by the official reports. Their son died in the crash and they formed an organization called Families for Truth about Gander. They requested several pieces of the wreckage and were surprised when the government actually sent them. An expert hired to analyze the scraps claimed that the edges were bent outwards, showing that a blast had occurred inside the plane. For Doug Phillips, this meant only one thing:

“The airplane exploded in mid-air and then went down and hit the ground with a gigantic fireball when the fuel ignited. But there’s no doubt in my mind that there was a fire or explosion, while the plane was still in flight.”

Dr. Phillips turned up one final telling fact. Autopsies revealed that many of the dead soldiers had a significant amount of carbon monoxide in their bodies:

“The toxicology report showed that the victims had indeed breathed in carbon monoxide prior to the plane hitting the ground and exploding. This had to be from a detonation, a fire or explosion on board the craft.”

In 1990, Congress convened a hearing on the Gander disaster. The committee faulted the government’s investigation, but didn’t insist on a new one. The families of the soldiers who were killed at Gander have been left to wonder why and how their loved ones really died.


Watch this case now on Amazon Prime in season five with Robert Stack and in season four with Dennis Farina. Also available on YouTube with Dennis Farina. Various seasons available now on Hulu.

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35 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    It was a cover up, due to nature of the classified info.

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    • robert hedrick

      i wasa military police officer at that time and did the trip that year i came home two weeks early on a civilian plane ticket paid for by the red cross after receiving a red cross message my father was dieing. i should have been on that aircraft and now the army wont verify my my dd form 214 they say i was never there . hedrick robert g. 522 29 3857 101 mp co 101abn div. 1983- 1986 ad ra

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    • stephen hale

      don’t forget that smokers can have as much as a 15% CO level at anytime while living.

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  2. r stack

    I visited the Gander NF Airport in 2010 and met two people still working there who had been working at the time of the takeoff and crash of the Air Arrow. They both witnessed an explosion in the air. They also said that no one from the US ever came and asked anyone at the airport any questions.

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  3. DigifanUM

    was an accident or sinister motives a cover up by the US and Canadian Governments?

    I remember watching this on Local NBC Station WAVE-TV 3 in Louisville This very frighting thought that the government would want those kind of weapons perhaps to fight Hussein? Cuba?

    but we’ll probably never knows

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  4. Blue bird

    Was it Suicide? Could It Be Possible That he Or She Had Carried Explosions Aboard And Had Intended To Kill Everybody But Again I Suspect It was a conspiracy But The Question Is This What Was Really Going On? Good Luck Unsolved mysteries! And I Love Each And Every one Of U!

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  5. Sam Christopher

    The families all received payment from the airline. No one wins here just release the correct information so everyone can move on. I lost my brother on this flight. My father who was military also had been on that same plane a few months before and he most definitely held the airline responsible.

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  6. K. Anderson

    When isn’t there something strange where our government and especially the military are concerned. I don’t think the US government has a truthful bone in any of its bodies.

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  7. B. Clemmer

    I flew to Egypt on that plane. I was in 3/60 Infantry from Fort Lewis WA. That aircraft barely got off the ground when we departed Mc Cord AFB. The investigators of this accident should be ashamed of themselves.

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  8. Mike

    It’s very strange that controversy even exists. Takeoff weight was underestimated and the presence of ice and the extended length of runway required to leave the ground demonstrate ice contamination on the wings. Entering these conditions into a flight simulator reproduced the disaster. There was no explosive residue, and the aircraft left no parts behind before striking trees, the bomb theory is definitively disproven. Simply impossible.

    The objection about loss of air speed is frankly stupid, when the plane stalled it’s nose up attitude deprived the engines of air flow causing loss of thrust, and caused visible flames trailing the engines from unburnt fuel. The way the wreckage was shredded is also a ridiculous argument, when an aircraft crashes into a dense forest st 165 knots, there is nothing about the direction of shredded metal that means anything whatever.

    As a result of the incomprehensible, stupid controversy, the danger of icing was not recognized until after two more crashes and loss of scores more lives.

    The dissenters themselves are contributing factors of two subsequent disasters.

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    • B.Glenn

      So you believe the NTSB, FAA, & airlines relied up skeptics of the Arrow Air crash for setting de-icing policy ? I promise you that’s not how it’s done. And this was prior to social media being a part of public forum. Lab analysis and commercial costs are the drivers of de-icing policy.

      But you cherry pick your arguments concerning the crash. No one has yet fully addressed the list of questions & contradictions. And the fact that so many lies were exposed concerning Iran-Contra it is highly probable the Govt is still keeping some things secret.

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  9. john smith

    American government had nuke weapons on a passenger plane. not smart. it blows up, kills everyone, American government lies and covers it up. typical. can NEVER trust the government.

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  10. Anonymous

    SHOW ME A DC-8 INTACT! DC AS IN WASHINGTON THE PENTAGON? NO! THE “PENTAGON” WOULD *NOT* TRAVELL IN ANY COMMERCIAL AIR CRAFT IF IT WAS TO BE DESIGNATED TO WASHINGTON DC. A ARMED FORCES PLANE DOESN’T “BLOW UP” FROM THE INSIDE!

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  11. Deepak Sarkar

    The Big Picture is Obvious: President Kennedy Rejected Military Operations Northwoods against Cuba – Gets Assassinated -> Files locked for 40 Years

    Israel Destroys USS Liberty Killing 34 US Marines Injuring 177. President Johnson Covered it Up, US Military Failed to Help

    5- EYE Covert Intelligence Alliance Formed (UK-SIS, CIA, Canada-CSIS, Australia-ASIS and New Zealand-NZSIS ) to Re-Annex USA for the United European Monarchy!

    Loyal US Military Deliberately Sent US Marines VIA Canada, Once Enemy Territory, where 248 US Marines (Would be Higher Ups as Peace Keepers) would be perished clearing the Path for Loyal Re-Annexation. President Reagan and George Bush Covered Up The Accident, sealing documents for 70 years, and were Knighted by Queen of England.

    That led to 9/11/2001 Military Attack Against USA by US Air Force and NORAD hijacking Passenger Jets Remotely and destroying Sovereign Economic Structure WTC and Military Structure Pentagon. George Bush sealed 9/11 documents for 50 years.

    9/11 Was A Military Coup For Re-Annexation of USA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI2_VChpo-c

    http://www.kolki.com

    That

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  12. Dottie Ziegler

    I truly believe the United States Government knows the truth about why the Arrow Air plane crashed in Gander, Canada Dec. 12, 1985. The Families of the loved ones lost deserve to know that truth.Z

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  13. GC (Ford) Mercer

    A terrible horror- as one of the hundred Canadian BDF Base Defense Force Members; the 12 Dec never leaves our memories. We the chosen res-ponders will forever see The gallery carpet ,Gift wrap, coke cans, sandwiches strew-en about the crash site around the never forgotten souls whom we carefully and genteelly repatriated home from the horror of this air crash. To the loved ones we send our heartfelt wishes and sympathy’s from afar. Every year forever amen.

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  14. jdt40u@yahoo.com

    Arrow Air’s N950JW

    In December, 1985, a horrific crash occurred at Gander, Newfoundland. It involved an Arrow Air DC-8-63, N950JW out of Miami, Florida. According to factual events and eye witnesses’ statements, the following will attempt to give explanation to the survivors of the victims of this event/
    I was an operations manager for AMR Services at Kent County International Airport at the time. Today it is known as the Gerald R. Ford International Airport, or KGRR, in Grand Rapids, Michigan. AMR Services is a subsidiary of AMR Corporation along with American Airlines. AMR Services was contracted to American Airlines to service and maintain passenger aircraft at KGRR. We also contracted servicing to charter operators such as Arrow Air. It should be noted that I do not work for, or am I retired from AMR Services, at this time. Also, I do not speak on their behalf.

    About November 15, 1985 , Arrow Air’s DC-8, N950JW arrived at KGRR at 2000 EST. The empty aircraft was ferried non-stop from Frankfort Germany. It was there to make a troop move to pick up 100 U.S Marines. When the aircraft landed, it was parked on the southeast corner of the main terminal tarmac. On the following evening it was scheduled to depart KGRR at 2300 EST. An air stair was put up to the forward cabin door, and as it opened, I was greeted by an agent of Arrow Air. It was his responsibility to act as a liaison in regard to ground servicing needs prior to the next day’s flight. Immediately upon boarding the aircraft, I noticed a smell similar to marijuana smoke. Also, there was a small open cooler with beer and ice located just outside the cockpit door. I asked the flight engineer how much fuel he would need. His reply was, “I don’t know. I have three fuel tank quantity indicators that are inoperative, and the fuel totalizer doesn’t work either. I guess I’ll take my chances until we get to New York.” I suggested the need for maintenance, but he declined. Additionally, there is a procedure to visually check the fuel quantity, which he failed to do.
    After the flight crew left for their hotel, I spent time with Arrow’s agent going over the needs for the next night’s flight. He told me that the cockpit crew did not have an approach plate, used to identify terrain and landmarks on approach to the destination airport, for the Toledo airport. I didn’t have one available, and he said they would go without it. When I asked him about potable water for the aircraft, he told me, “We’ll have to guess at it. The water quantity indicators don’t work” The water system was also leaking, which can create a large ball of ice on the aircraft while flying at high altitude. A large ball of ice on the outside of the airplane can disrupt the airflow and hinder the aerodynamics of flight. Also, as the plane approaches its destination airport, it descends into warmer air and the ice ball falls off, potentially causing damage where it finally lands. He also told me that the emergency flashlights in the cabin did not work. I checked them and he was right. He requested regular batteries to replace them. I advised him that regular flashlight batteries in a rechargeable system would get hot and create a possible fire hazard. The next evening he replaced them with regular batteries anyway. After he left, I did my usual walk-around inspection of the aircraft. I found that the right, aft tire on the left main landing gear truck was smaller than the other three and wasn’t even touching the ground. Three main landing gear tires were worn beyond limits. The fellow that worked for me as a night shift supervisor was with me when I said to him, “This airplane is doomed to crash”. He replied, “I know.”

    N950JW was scheduled to depart KGRR at 2300 EST the next evening. It was a clear night, and the winds were calm. The flight crew was scheduled to arrive at 2000 EST. The Marine unit that was to board that evening arrived as scheduled. The flight crew was an hour late. The military gear was to be loaded in the aft cargo bay. This is correct for the aircraft type. The Marines insisted on loading their own gear onto the aircraft. I do not believe this is a good practice. Line service personnel are trained not only to load cargo properly, they are also trained to inspect the inside of the cargo bay. After all was loaded, it was discovered that two of the cargo doors would not indicate “closed and locked.” The flight crew elected to fly as is.

    While the cargo was being loaded, the flight attendants made the decision to seat all of the passengers as far aft in the cabin as possible. The thinking was that it would be faster to board the rest of the passengers in Toledo. Now the plane was tail-heavy, and the fuel load unknown. Overall, there was a noted lack of professionalism and training in regard to the cabin crew.

    After the crew and passengers had boarded, including Arrow’s agent, I was on a headset in front of the aircraft and in communication with the captain. I started to run the engine start checklist: brakes set, etc. The pilot told me, “I don’t have time for a checklist. I just want to get the hell out of here. Clear to start #3?” “Clear to start,” I replied. #3 engine rotated but failed to start. The pilot then informed me he was going to let it spool down and try again. He tried #3 again with the same result. I could hear the igniters firing in #3 as he tried to start it. The engine igniters make a crackling noise, sort of a static sound in the ear. If the engine is rotating at about 18% of RPM and there is fuel going to the engine, the igniters will create spark and the engine will start. One possible reason for this engine not starting could be a bad fuel control valve. I asked him if he wanted maintenance, and he declined, saying the #3 engine had been past its time before overhaul (TBOH) for a long time, and he didn’t want it in the logbook. He said he was going to start engines #1, #2 and #4. He would then come back to #3. The other three engines started without incident, and then #3 engine finally started. I signed off with the flight crew, wished them “Safe skies,” and watched as they taxied toward the runway for an eastbound departure. I then went to the operations office to wait for the crew to call me with their times off the gate and in the air. When I had his numbers, I would then call Arrow Air.

    GRR is a small airport and very quiet late at night, it wasn’t hard to hear a DC-8 on a take-off roll. I didn’t hear N950JW depart after waiting a reasonable amount of time. I called the control tower and asked them if Arrow Air had departed. They told me that the aircraft lost the#3 engine on take off rotation and the tail had hit the runway. Subsequently, the airplane slammed down on the main landing gear and then the nose gear. Normally, this would require an inspection of the underside of the tail and all landing gear. This did not happened. The control tower said that the airplane was stopped on the parallel taxiway. I then called the captain on the radio. He told me that the #3 engine had failed on takeoff and he had to abort. He said was trying to get it started while the flight attendants moved some of the passengers forward for better weight distribution. He said he thought that the aircraft was tail heavy. I again asked him if he wanted maintenance. He declined. The #3 engine eventually started, and the aircraft took off without further incident.

    Arrow Air’s Flight 1285

    I was in my office at KGRR on the morning of December 12,1985. It was no surprised to me when I was told that Arrow Air’s N950JW had crashed at Gander. I was angry and upset, but not surprised. Almost a month prior to the crash, while handling this airplane, years of experience had told me that this was going to happen. It was only a matter of a few minutes. and the phone started ringing. The media was relentless in their efforts to find out any possible detail they could. Nothing had been mentioned in the Grand Rapids Press after the incident that had happened in November. However, on December 12, and December 13, 1985, the incident in November dominated the front page. It was stated in the press that some of the troops wanted to get off of the airplane when the first takeoff attempt failed the previous month in Grand Rapids. Their commanding officer refused. He had no idea of the condition of the aircraft. He trusted the cockpit crew and Arrow Air.

    My first responsibility that morning was to call my director in Arlington, Texas. When his secretary answered the phone, she told me to call American Airlines public relations office. I knew this girl from seeing her during many visits to AA’s headquarters in Arlington. I talked to her almost daily. I called again, and she acted as if she didn’t even know me. It was then that I remembered signing a document when I came on board with AMR. That document was a disclaimer, saying that AMR would not support me in any way in the event of an accident. That was it. AMR had “hung me out to dry.” It was shortly after the crash I quietly left AMR Services. I “resigned.”

    On the afternoon of the day of the crash, an agent from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) came to my office. He told me that he wanted to talk to the person that acted as Arrow Air’s agent, saying that he worked for me. I explained to him that this person did not work for me; he worked for Arrow Air. I had somewhat assumed that he went down with the airplane. He had told me that he was always with the same airplane. As it turned out, Arrow Air’s dispatcher had told the FAA that he worked for me. I could not convince the agent that didn’t work for me. He then told me that I was going to be charged in a conspiracy with Arrow Air. How could this be? This agent was the first person to get off of that airplane and the last to get on the next day, back in November. The agent said the control tower had told him that a pick-up truck had gone out to the aircraft as it stopped on the parallel taxiway while the pilot was trying to restart the #3 engine. I knew nothing about this pick-up truck. I didn’t even have one in my equipment inventory. He insisted that I did.

    The next day I had to fly down to Arlington, Texas. My director wanted any and all paperwork regarding N950JW. On the way back, I stopped in Chicago at KORD. I had a friend there who was the chief of maintenance for American Airlines. He and I talked about the crash, and I told him about my situation with the authorities and Arrow’s mysterious agent. He was very surprised. He asked me to walk with him to the other side of the hangar. As he opened the exit door, there sat one of Arrow Air’s DC-8’s. He told me it had flown in the night before. The same agent had come with it and was in Chicago. I flew back to KGRR and went home. The next day I went to the FAA office at the airport. I told them that Arrow’s agent was in Chicago with one of Arrow Air’s airplanes. It was like nobody cared. They just said “Okay.” There was no other comment or discussion. They didn’t even ask how I knew or where, at the airport, he was.

    OPINION:
    On the morning of Dec. 12, 1985, Arrow Air’s DC-8, N950JW was loaded and ready to depart the Gander airport. Based on my experience with Arrow’s operations, the fuel load was unknown and the weight of the cargo was unknown or inaccurate. The weather was light drizzle and overcast but acceptable. It is safe to say that instrument flight rules prevailed. Previous arrivals and departures on that morning did not indicate visibility or runway problems. Some surface icing was reported. N950JW was cleared for takeoff and turned onto the active runway. Very shortly after rotation, the #3 engine suffered catastrophic rotor disintegration. This would explain the fire that witnesses reported on the right side of the fuselage. I have witnessed more than one four engine aircraft lose an engine on departure climb out without further incident. The DC-8-63 is designed to continue flight under these circumstances. However, there had also been an ongoing problem with the #4 engine. Months prior to Gander, a mechanic at another airport reported that #4 had serious fuel control valve problem and refused to sign off on the engine. He informed the crew and tried to ground the aircraft. Arrow flew anyway, just as my experience with the aircraft at KGRR. It is very likely that debris from the #3 engine could have been ingested into the #4 engine, or the #4 engine also failed on its own. The cockpit crew had their hands full. With two engines out on the right side, the aircraft was rolling to the right and the nose wanting to pitch up. The pilot had his foot deep into the left rudder, with full power to the left engines. He was hard left with the yolk. He had little power and very little time to do, in this case, the impossible. I don’t believe he had any control over where the plane would impact the ground.

    When an airplane crashes, almost anywhere in the world, a cry for help goes out, and the investigation begins. The NTSB, the FAA, the aircraft’s manufacturer, the engine manufacturer, and many others head to the crash site with great dispatch. They look at every piece of the aircraft and chart all of it, including the location of the victims’ remains. They search relentlessly. They look at the weather and the terrain. They look at the positions of the flight controls. They check the cockpit and the instruments. In some cases, the aircraft is reassembled in a hangar, a tremendous amount of work. Nevertheless, we always have a responsibility to find the truth, a responsibility to the victims and their survivors, a responsibility to the aviation community, and to the next passenger. We create an awareness in manufacturing and operations that makes the industry better and safer. All of us have watched the news too many times and seen the relentless searches being conducted. We watch……..and we wonder……..why…… why did we not do the same at Gander? Why did we not find truth? Why do we not have the answers? So, sadly we wait as they drift farther away, as the evidence deteriorates, and the last witnesses die.

    In February of 2005 I wrote the following on the Sanford.org website:
    “The tragic loss at Gander is certainly something that still needs to be looked into. “Gander: The Untold Story” has become a stopping place for many that are seeking the truth. I’m sure, to most, that it is convenient to read and imagine or, in some cases, even believe. When our government is involved in something like this, people tend to thrive on conspiracy theories. The first story is told, and anything said to suggest that it is wrong is considered to be another conspiracy to cover up the first. 
I feel badly for the families that have suffered over the years. They deserve to have answers to their questions, and I feel sure that our government has let them believe anything that has been written or reported. I say this because I don’t buy any of what has been reported or written.
I was familiar with DC-8-63, N950JW. It was a flying death trap. I worked this aircraft about a month prior to Gander. I knew that it was doomed but kept my mouth shut in the interest of corporate greed. I have regretted this for the last 19 years. I have spent years doing research on this accident. I have talked to others that have done the same. I have also interviewed people that had flown on this aircraft on its last flight before Gander. We all agree on the same answer. Whether or not Col. North was carrying on a covert operation has nothing to do with why this happened. If there is a cover up, it is to keep the American public from finding out that our government used a negligent charter operator to carry our troops. I somehow doubt that many will have interest in this. It may not seem as intriguing or as exciting as covert operations, special forces, bomb theories, etc. However, it lays the blame exactly where it belong: with the U.S. Government. N950JW was a maintenance nightmare and was allowed to keep flying, even after previous and serious incidents indicated it was in bad need of repair. No one cared.”

    In the final analysis, the “Pilot in Command” is responsible for the safety of his aircraft and the souls on board. Passengers and crew members put their trust in him. They have a right to assume that they are in the hands of a well-trained and disciplined professional. They have a right to assume they are safe. This was not the case at Gander. It was not the case at Grand Rapids. The captains in both cases knowingly elected to fly an unsafe airplane. This speaks to the culture of the whole airline. In Grand Rapids, Arrow Air’s pilot knowingly endangered the lives of about one hundred U.S. Marines and his crew. In Gander the result of the negligent decision by the captain to fly an unsafe aircraft caused the death of 255 other people in the worst aviation accident in the history of Canadian aviation.
    However, let us not forget the culpability of the United States government. Who is responsible for the oversight of air charter operators carrying our troops? How could it possibly be that Arrow Air could continue to operate with poorly trained crews and unsafe equipment? Arrow Air’s negligence was no secret in the airline community. We all knew how dangerous their operations were. Why didn’t our government know? Or did they?

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    • Leigh

      Amazing story. Thanks for taking the time to document the horrific details of negligence that you witnessed.

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    • B.Glenn

      Thank you for your detailed response. Given your experience and observations, I suspect the jet was loaded with weapons & maybe bodies in Egypt, and suffered mechanical emergencies upon leaving Canada. Two scandals rolled into one tragedy.

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  15. sabomar1285

    There is footage from a Swedish family, the film shows Arrow Air 1285 behind the family being filmed, being properly de iced. Thanks to many Canadian ground crew members that have spoken up, we know something bad happened to this aircraft and the sealing of records for 70years just admits it. The crash if just an accident would have taken months of investigation to come to a conclusion that is based on evidence. But instead it was hastily concluded with no investigation and the crash scene was scrubbed. Criminal or ordinary crash investigations when loss of life are present take time. Theories have to be proven or dis-proved based on as much hard evidence as can be found. it’s not what you can prove but how you can prove it. Crash of Arrow Air 1285 was never allowed the vetting the families deserved.

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  16. keta

    look at who the oil executives were on that plane

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    • Skip

      There were no Oil executives on the plane – Strictly members of the 101st and the air crew. The personnel originated in Multi-National Force and Observers base Sharm El-Sheik. They flew by C-130 from Ras Nasrani Afld to Cairo International, boarded the Arrow Air after a delay for maintenance. Arrow Air flew to Germany – I believe Frankfort or Rhine Main before landing at Gander. It is unlikely Oil executives would have boarded a government chartered flight.

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  17. jj

    Strange.

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  18. Demolition boy

    People are on about records being sealed for 70 years, at the same time various agencies are denying that any records exist…….How can something that does not exist be sealed for 70 years.
    Also the fact that the site was bulldozed and crucial evidence and items were buried shows something was not as someone wants it to appear.

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  19. Gar

    The 70 years clause indicates certain people were worried it might harm their careers. Thus, they seal such damning files long enough so that those political leaders, corporate executives and other powerful and wealthy individuals who were involved with the cover-up are long dead before the truth is revealed.

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    • E1craZ4life

      The way the sentence is worded states the claim to be that the records had been sealed for 70 years. But that can’t be true, as it hasn’t even been 30 years since the accident.

      Also, if an explosion did blow out the exterior of the plane, there should’ve been something from the plane that landed between the runway and the point of impact. And yet the tract of land between those two points has yielded nothing that could have come from the plane.

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  20. Anonymous

    The didn’t say they HAVE been sealed 70 years but their ARE sealed for 70 years….a common government practice. Files are sealed for a determined amount of time in hopes that when they are unsealed everyone who is important or who may have to answer for past actions will be dead.

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    • E1craZ4life

      “According to one unnamed source, the U.S. government sealed its records of the crash for seventy years.” The context being implied is that they had been sealed for 70 years by the time this episode was made, even though it hasn’t even been 30 years since the accident took place.

      But what about what Filotas said? That a crash on takeoff can’t cause a plane to disintegrate on impact? Because that’s exactly what happened in the following crashes:
      – American Airlines Flight 191
      – Scandinavian Airlines Flight 686
      – Northwest Airlines Flight 255
      – KLM Flight 4805 (Tenerife)
      – Comair Flight 5191
      – Air Midwest Express Flight 5481
      – 2011 Lokomotiv hockey team crash
      – Air France Flight 4590 (Concorde)
      Arrow Air Flight 1285 crashed into a heavily wooded area, so there’s bound to be an extreme degree of carnage in that kind of impact.

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    • Skip

      If the files are sealed then there would be an official document from the government saying as much. So far a lot of talk about a 70 year seal yet no documentation. I have to question the authenticity.

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  21. grahamclayton

    Definitely something fishy going on.

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    • E1craZ4life

      Yeah. How can the records have been “sealed for 70 years” when we haven’t even crossed the crash’s 30 year anniversary?

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  22. E1craZ4life

    If this isn’t a poorly made argument, I don’t know what is.

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As used herein the word “I” or “me” or “my” refers to the registered user. “You,” “your” and “we” refers to Unsolved Mysteries and www.unsolved.com, its parents, affiliates, sponsors, successors, assigns, heirs and licensees.

PLEASE READ THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CAREFULLY. BY ACCESSING THIS WEBSITE YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS BELOW. THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE, FROM TIME TO TIME IN OUR SOLE DISCRETION. WE WILL NOTIFY YOU OF AMENDMENTS TO THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS BY POSTING THEM TO THIS WEBSITE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, PLEASE DO NOT ACCESS THIS WEBSITE.

By uploading any photographs, videos, and/or written materials including, without limitation, captions and stories (collectively, “My Materials”), I certify and acknowledge that I wholly-own My Materials or have the sole and exclusive right to permit Unsolved Mysteries and www.unsolved.com to use, edit, publish and otherwise exploit My Materials and my name in connection with My Materials without obligation or liability to me or any other party whatsoever. We may require “reasonable proof of ownership” of the content you submit.

I hereby grant to you the non-exclusive, irrevocable and unconditional right to describe, relate, publish and/or exploit My Materials in such manner as you shall elect, in whole or in part, on your websites and in print and electronic form or in any other media now or hereafter known or devised (including without limitation, books), and in related products and services in connection with any exploitation thereof (including but not limited to clothing, bumper stickers, mugs, toys, posters and other printed materials, and any related promotion and advertising of such items), throughout the universe in perpetuity, and in any advertising, promotion and publicity related thereto in all media now existing or to come into existence in the future. I agree that you shall have the right to edit, change, add to, take from, rearrange, vary, embellish, alter, modify, revise, translate, reformat and/or reprocess My Materials in any manner you may in your sole discretion determine and to use them as you in your sole discretion may determine and to make derivative works of the same, in whole or in part, or not to use any of My Materials, without notifying me and without obligation to me; and I waive any right to inspect or approve the final display or other exploitation of My Materials now or in the future, whether that use is known to me or unknown, and I waive any right to royalties or any other compensation arising from or related to the use of My Materials. I waive any right to sue even if what I feel was created was defamatory.I hereby give Unsolved.com (hereafter referred to as “you”) the right to make visual and audio recordings of me, and I give you the irrevocable right to use such recordings as well as my name, voice, appearance, activities and experiences in connection with the website unsolved.com. Such use includes promotions, publicity and advertising.

I represent and warrant that I have the right to enter into this agreement and to grant, without the consent of any third parties, all the rights herein granted; that I have not exclusively granted or assigned or otherwise transferred such rights to any third parties; and that there are no claims, litigation or other proceedings pending or threatened which could in any way impair, limit or diminish the rights granted to you hereunder. I, on behalf of myself, my successors, heirs, representatives and assigns, hereby irrevocably covenant that I will not assert a claim or maintain an action or suit and will not consent to the assertion or maintenance by others of any claim, action or suit (including, but not limited to claims, actions or suits for invasion of my rights of privacy, rights of publicity, defamation or rights in the nature of “droit moral”) of any kind on account of the exercise by you of any of the rights herein granted or agreed to be granted to you.

I represent and warrant that if any minors appear in My Materials, I am the mother, father or duly appointed guardian of such minors or have the irrevocable permission of the parents or duly appointed guardian(s) of such minors to grant the rights set forth herein to you on behalf of such minors.
I agree to indemnify and defend you, and hold you harmless from and against any and all liability, losses, damages, costs, expenses (including but not limited to attorneys’ fees), judgments and penalties arising out of, resulting from, based upon or incurred because of the breach of any warranty, representation or agreement made by me hereunder (including, without limitation, with respect to any claims that I lack the authority to grant all of the rights (including rights of third parties and minors) herein granted). I agree that I will have no rights to terminate or rescind any rights granted to you hereunder or to enjoin the publication, production, exhibition or distribution or exploitation of any work based thereon.

IN NO EVENT WILL YOU BE RESPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES OR LOSSES OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, ARISING OUT OF MY USE OF YOUR WEBSITES OR YOUR REMOVAL FROM YOUR WEBSITES OF, OR DISCONTINUATION OF ACCESS TO, MY MATERIALS. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, YOUR WEBSITES AND ALL MATERIALS PROVIDED ON OR THROUGH YOUR WEBSITES ARE PROVIDED “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. YOU DO NOT NOW AND SHALL NOT IN THE FUTURE HAVE ANY DUTY OR LIABILITY, DIRECT OR INDIRECT, VICARIOUS, CONTRIBUTORY, OR OTHERWISE, WITH RESPECT TO THE INFRINGEMENT OR PROTECTION OF MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, IF ANY, WITH RESPECT TO ANY SUBMISSION OF MATERIAL.

This release is governed by and shall be construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California, United States of America, without regards to its principles of conflicts of law.

1.In the event of any dispute arising out of or in connection with this agreement or otherwise in connection with your websites or My Materials, such dispute shall be submitted to arbitration in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America in accordance with the commercial rules and regulations of the American Arbitration Association then in effect (as amended herein), provided that said arbitration shall be heard before a single arbitrator, who shall be a retired judge, selected pursuant to such rules and regulations, and shall be conducted on an expedited basis and in confidence.

  1. The arbitrator’s decision shall be controlled by the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other agreements I may enter into with you, and shall be final and binding, and shall provide for each party to bear its own costs of arbitration and attorneys’ fees. Each party expressly waives any right to a jury. Judgment upon the award of the arbitrator may be entered or enforced in any court of competent jurisdiction.

This agreement shall bind my heirs, administrators, representatives, executors and assigns forever. You shall have the right to assign any or all of your rights hereunder to any person, firm or entity in your sole discretion. I may not assign this agreement to any third party, and any purported attempt to do so shall be deemed null and void ab initio.

I give you the foregoing permission with the knowledge and understanding that you will incur substantial expense in reliance thereon. If any part of this agreement is held invalid or unenforceable, that portion shall be construed in a manner consistent with applicable law to reflect, as nearly as possible, the original intentions of the parties, and the remaining portions shall remain in full force and effect.

I am of the age of majority in my state of residence (which is typically 18 years of age in most states) and competent to contract in my own name. I HAVE READ THIS SUBMISSION RELEASE AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND FREELY ACCEPT THE CONTENTS AND MEANING OF THIS AGREEMENT. I AGREE TO BE BOUND HEREBY AND INDICATE MY ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS BY CLICKING THE BOX BELOW. MY electronic consent to this Agreement (or to any other agreement between ME AND YOU), whether by clicking THE BOX BELOW or similar buttons provided in conjunction with any such agreement, shall constitute MY electronic signature and, according to the provisions of UNITED STATES federal law (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, UNITED STATES COPYRIGHT LAW), shall be of the same effect as if I had signed such agreement manually. UPON YOUR request, I agree to sign a non-electronic version of this Agreement. A printed version of this Agreement and/or of any notice given in electronic form shall be admissible in judicial, administrative, or arbitration proceedings based upon or relating to this Agreement to the same extent and subject to the same conditions as other business documents and records originally generated.

Complaints about content, including complaints arising state or federal law involving the unsolved website should be made to unsolved@unsolved.com or at Unsolved Mysteries, 4303 W. Verdugo Ave., Burbank, CA  91505.  For questions regarding Unsolved’s compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act please see our DMCA policy [https://unsolved.com/dcma-agreement/]

 

PRIVACY POLICY

Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. (“CMP”) provides www.unsolved.com (the “Website”) and related services for your personal non-commercial use only and subject to your compliance with this Privacy Statement and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. Terms of Use Agreement. Please read this Agreement carefully before using this Website. Your use of this Website constitutes your acceptance to be bound by this Agreement without limitation, qualification or change. If at any time you do not accept all the terms and conditions of this Agreement, you must immediately discontinue use of this Website. This Agreement sets forth Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. policies with respect to its operation of this Website.

Certain products or services offered by this Website may be governed by additional terms (“Additional Terms”) presented in conjunction with those products or services. You must agree to these Additional Terms before using those areas or Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. Services. The Additional Terms and this Agreement shall apply equally. In the event of an irreconcilable inconsistency between the Additional Terms and this Agreement, the Additional Terms shall control.

YOU MAY NOT USE THIS WEBSITE FOR ANY PURPOSE THAT IS UNLAWFUL OR PROHIBITED BY THIS AGREEMENT AND/OR ANY APPLICABLE ADDITIONAL TERMS. YOUR ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE MAY BE TERMINATED IMMEDIATELY IN COSGROVE MEURER PRODUCTIONS, INC. SOLE DISCRETION, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE, IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLY WITH ANY PROVISIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND/OR ADDITIONAL TERMS, OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON, OR FOR NO REASON.

This Agreement informs you of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. practices with respect to the online collection, use, and disclosure of personal information from the Website. Personal information is information that allows us to contact you (such as email address, home address, or telephone number) or other information that, when linked to your name or contact information, allows us to personalize your visit to our Website by providing you with information that suits your interests.

DATA WE COLLECT

Personal Data
 

We collect information (whether online, by phone, or by paper) that enables CMP to identify or contact you (“Personal Data”) to carry out our business purposes.  CMP Sites collect this information for a variety of business reasons, including but not limited to, providing tips, registering for an CMP event or program, purchasing CMP products or services, or otherwise interacting with CMP.
 

The types of Personal Data we collect include, but are not limited to:
 

  • General data (e.g., names, dates of birth, home and business addresses, email addresses, Internet protocol addresses and mobile/landline business/personal telephone numbers that are provided by our members/customers)
  • Professional data (e.g., occupation and state of residence)
  • Other identification information (e.g., photographs)
  • Sensitive Personal Data (e.g., racial or ethnic origin, sexual orientation and disability data) for diversity or accessibility purposes based upon information you provide us.

Personal data is not collected without your providing that information to us.
 

Non-Personal Data
 

We collect information (whether online, by phone, or by paper) that does not directly identify you as you interact with our Sites (“Non-Personal Data”). The types of Non-Personal Data we collect includes, but is not limited to:

  • Site usage (e.g., browsing history, search terms, number of clicks, referring/exit pages, date/time stamp, time on Site)
  • Products and services viewed, including advertisements for such products and services
  • Computer type, operating system and platform type
  • Internet service provider

 

HOW CMP USES YOUR DATA

In addition to the uses described above, we use your Personal Data, sometimes combined with Non-Personal Data, in a variety of ways including, but not limited to:


Personal Data
 

  • Identify you when you visit our Sites
  • Provide service communications such as invoices, order confirmations, registrations and customer service messages
  • Provide products, information and services you request or that we think you may be interested in
  • Respond to your emails or online requests for products, services, or information
  • Deliver and process surveys
  • Personalize and improve the usability of the Sites
  • Fulfill and/or deliver CMP products and services
  • Tailor content, advertising and marketing to you
  • We do not publish or aggregate credit card information or personal identification numbers such as social security numbers.


Non-Personal Data


We use Non-Personal Data to improve the usability of our Sites and for other business reasons. We or other third-party companies also use the Non-Personal Data to provide advertisements and targeted advertisements to you (ads based on the Non-Personal Data). We do not provide Personal Data to third parties with whom we share your Non-Personal Data. Please note that, when you select an advertising link or other link that takes you to sites not operated by CMP, you may be subject to the privacy policies of these third-party sites.

PERSONAL DATA COLLECTED FROM THE UNSOLVED APPLICATION

We may also obtain demographic and other personally identifiable information (such as your name, email address, password and PIN) that you voluntarily give to us when choosing to participate in various activities related to the Unsolved Application, including chat, posting messages in comment sections or in our forums, liking posts, sending feedback, and responding to surveys. 

 

If you do not turn off your phone’s location services, you may send us your geographic location.  If your camera roll is set to share, you may make your camera roll available to us.  If you have signed up to receive push notifications, you will receive those from the Unsolved Application.

 

HOW WE SHARE YOUR DATA

We share your Personal Data, sometimes combined with Non-Personal Data, in a variety of ways including, but not limited to the below:

  • Share data with third parties to fulfill service requests and to perform business functions (e.g., CMP contracts with third parties to provide services on our behalf such as customer support and consulting services; 
  • Share data with third parties as required by law or to protect CMP in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to legal requirements or comply with legal process served on the CMP; (b) protect and defend CMP’s rights or property; or (c) protect the personal safety of CMP personnel or members of the public in appropriate circumstances.
  • Share data with third parties if CMP and/or its assets (or a portion of its assets) are sold, assigned, transferred, or merged, or if CMP undergoes some other change including a change to its corporate form or as part of a bankruptcy proceeding. 
  • Share data with third parties to offer you products and services that may be of interest to you professionally or personally (e.g., apps or software).  Users can request their information to be removed from such lists by contacting us.
  • Share data with third parties under other unanticipated situations, but only with your consent.
  • Share your email address, but only as permitted by the CMP Email Policy, as follows:

Your email address will be used only by the CMP, its entities and CMP vendors performing member services, or offering products on CMP’s behalf.  CMP does not sell or rent email addresses to anyone outside the CMP, nor does CMP share email addresses to unrelated third-parties, affiliates, or CMP members.  CMP also shares your email address with third parties to enable CMP to take security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data.  Finally, CMP shares email addresses with third parties as necessary for CMP to perform certain services on our behalf, such as packaging, mailing and delivering products and processing event registrations and to respond to your service requests.

 

HOW YOU CAN MANAGE YOUR DATA WE COLLECT

You can manage your profile and email preferences, including “opting out” of email by contacting us. If you prefer to receive hard copy mailings only from CMP, you can contact us and request to have your name and address removed from the list we provide to third parties.

 

For California residents, please consult the “California Privacy Rights” section for additional considerations. 

 

Our processing of your data is based upon your consent, contract performance (e.g., your purchase of products), legitimate business interest (e.g., direct marketing of goods and services), or compliance with law.  You have the right to object to our processing of your data or to restrict our processing of your data. In addition, if you have consented to the processing of your Personal Data, you have the right to withdraw your consent at any time.

 

CALIFORNIA PRIVACY RIGHTS

In addition to the rights as explained in this Privacy Policy, under California law, California residents who provide personal information (as defined in the statute) to obtain products or services for personal, family, or household use are entitled to request and obtain from us, once a calendar year, information about the personal information we shared, if any, with other businesses for marketing uses. If applicable, this information would include the categories of personal information and the names and addresses of those businesses with which we shared such personal information for the immediately prior calendar year (e.g., requests made in the current year will receive information about the prior year).

 

To obtain this information please write to us at:

 

Unsolved

4303 Verdugo Ave.

Burbank, CA  91505

 

 Attn: CMP -- California Privacy Law.

 

Please include your full name and address.

 

CANADIAN ANTI-SPAM LAW

CMP complies with the Canada Anti-Spam Law which requires you to opt-in to receive unauthorized Commercial Electronic Messages (as defined under the Canada Anti-Spam Law).

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HOW WE PROTECT PERSONAL DATA

CMP implements commercially reasonable security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data. Except for membership directories, membership lists and registration lists, and the sharing of information as set forth in this Privacy Policy, we restrict access to Personal Data to certain companies who need the data to operate, develop, or improve our services. These individuals or partner organizations are bound by confidentiality obligations and may be subject to discipline, including termination and criminal prosecution, if they fail to meet these obligations.

 

Unfortunately, no data transmission over the Internet or electronic storage is fully secure. Accordingly, and despite our reasonable efforts to protect your Personal Data from unauthorized access, use, or disclosure, CMP cannot guarantee or warrant the security of the Personal Data you transmit to us, or to or from our online Sites. If you have questions about this Privacy Policy, please contact us.

 

Certain areas of the Sites require the use of a user ID, email address, or password as an additional security measure that helps protect your Personal Data.  To help you protect your privacy, these Sites have tools to help you log in and log out.

ACCESSING, CHANGING AND DELETING PERSONAL INFORMATION

We rely on you to update and correct your Personal Data.  If you are a user of our Sites, subscriber to [CMP product], purchaser of CMP products and services, you can review, update and correct your information directly on CMP’s website or by contacting us using the information in the “Contact Information” section below.

 

Typically, we retain your Personal Data for the period necessary to fulfill the purposes outlined in this Privacy Policy, unless a longer retention period is required or permitted by law.  This may include retaining your Personal Data indefinitely, even after you are no longer a CMP member, in order to provide you with future marketing opportunities and other purposes, as well as to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, or enforce any of our agreements.  

 

Please note that you can request, at any time, that we delete your Personal Data.  All requests must be directed to the contact in the “Contact Information” section below.  We can decide to delete your Personal Data if we believe that the data is incomplete, inaccurate, or that our continued use and storage are contrary to our obligations to other members, individuals, or third parties.  When we delete your Personal Data, it will be removed from our active databases or anonymized so that the data is no longer identified with you, but the data may remain in our archives if CMP determines that it is not practical or possible to delete it.

Your Personal Data is processed in the United States, where privacy laws may be less stringent than the laws in your country and where the government, courts, or law enforcement may be able to access your data.  By submitting your Personal Data to us, you agree to the transfer, storage and processing of your Personal Data in the United States.

You, as the data subject, have the right to lodge a complaint with a supervisory authority, in particular in the Member State of your habitual residence, place of work, or place of the alleged infringement, if you believe that the processing of your personal data does not comply with legal requirements.

In the event we determine the occurrence of a data security incident, we will notify you by email, US mail, telephone, or other means as permitted by law.

If you have questions, comments, or complaints concerning our privacy practices or if you wish to change, access, or remove your Personal Data, please contact us as indicated below.  We will attempt, where practical, to respond to your requests and to provide you with additional privacy related information.

Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. is the owner of this Website and retains all ownership rights to the information collected at this Website. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. reserves the right to change, modify, add, or remove provisions of this Privacy Statement. Any changes to this Privacy Statement will be posted here, and we encourage you to check back from time to time. In addition, Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. will notify registered users of changes as they occur.

We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit networkadvertising.org. Your use of the site constitutes your agreement to accept cookies, beacons and third-party advertising. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for third-party ads.

ARTICLE 1. Personalization
1.1 We may use the contact information you give us to better tailor your Website experience to your interests, and to send you information about Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. and its services as well as promotional material on behalf of some of our partners. We may use other information that you provide to us to show you content in which you may be interested and to display the content according to your preferences. We will also share this information within Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. in order to enhance your experience on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. Websites.
1.2 In addition, we may share this information with advertisers or other third parties that are not part of the Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. family on an aggregate or other basis that does not disclose your identity or contact information.

ARTICLE 2. Online Surveys/Contests
2.1 From time to time, we may conduct online surveys and contests. These may ask you for contact information (like name or email address) and demographic information (like zip code or age).
2.2 We may use this contact information from our surveys and contests to provide you with information about our company and promotional material on behalf of some of our partners, and to contact you when necessary.

ARTICLE 3. Shopping/Commercial Services
3.1 This Website may offer shopping services, which may be offered by us or by a firm that operates a store under contract with us. If our Website offers shopping or other commercial services, you will use a customer order form to request information, products, and services. The order form will ask you to give us contact information (like name or email address), financial information (like account or credit card numbers), and demographic information (like zip code or age).

3.2 We will use the financial information that you provide to bill you for products and services. By giving our Website your credit card and related personal information, you are authorizing our store to give that information to the merchant and credit card company in order to confirm and fulfill your order.

3.3 We will use contact information from the order form to fulfill your orders. We may also use contact data to get in touch with you when necessary. We will not otherwise use or distribute your financial information without your prior approval.

ARTICLE 4. Public forums
4.1 This Website may make available chat rooms, blogs, forums, message boards, and news groups. Please remember that any information that you disclose in these areas becomes public information and you should exercise caution when deciding to disclose your personal information. Information disclosed by you or by others enters the public domain and may be freely used by any other persons or entities using the site.

ARTICLE 5. Information Sharing With Third Parties
5.1 From time to time we may enter into a special relationship with another company that is not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. to provide additional features at this Website. These special relationships may include “powered by” partners, business partners, sponsors, and co-branded sites (referred to here as “co-branded pages”). These might include, for example, pages that share our name and that of another entity. You should look for a specific privacy statement on any such co-branded page. Any personal information that you provide when signing up at one of those co-branded pages may be shared with our third party partner. You should also check our partner’s website for information regarding its privacy policies.

5.2 Also, the nature of some features of our Website may require that we share personal information about you with persons or companies outside of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. For example, this may occur at a feature that enables you, via our Website, to ask questions of persons or entities that are not part of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. By responding to those features of the site, whether by email or direct entry of information on our Website, you are consenting to our transferring that information to such persons or entities.

5.3 With respect to specific registration modules, like contests, we may disclose personal information collected, and we may post a conspicuous statement on the registration module to the effect that we will be disclosing the information collected with third parties.

5.4 Finally, we may share any of the information collected from you with these other non- Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc companies in an aggregate basis. The aggregated information is not linked to any information that can identify you.

ARTICLE 6. IP Address and Log Files
6.1 We may use your IP address to administer our Website, to help diagnose problems with our server, to analyze trends, to track users’ webpage movements, to help identify you and your shopping cart, and to gather broad demographic information for aggregate use.

ARTICLE 7. Cookies
7.1 This Website may use a standard technology called a “cookie” to collect information about how you use the Website. Cookies reside on your computer and help our Website to recognize your computer’s browser as a previous visitor. This information allows us to customize delivery of information. For example, our Website may use cookies to save and remember registration information or preferences that you may have set while browsing the Website, to keep track of your shopping cart, to ensure you don’t see the same ad content repeatedly, to deliver content specific to your interests, and to save your password so you do not have to re-enter it each time you visit our site. We use cookies only to gather information as indicated in this policy.

7.2 In addition, on occasion our site may also set a “session cookie” which helps us administer the Website. The session cookie expires when you close your browser and does not retain any information about you after it expires.

7.3 Finally, we may also use an ad network provider to help present advertisements on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. websites. This ad network provider, like other advertising service vendors, uses cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies on the hard drive of your computer to serve you advertisements tailored to interests you have shown by browsing on this and other sites you have visited, and to determine whether you have seen a particular advertisement before and to avoid sending you duplicate advertisements. In doing so, the provider collects non-personal data such as your browser type, your operating system, web pages visited, time of visits, content viewed, ads viewed, and other clickstream data. The use of cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies by these ad network providers is subject to their own privacy policies, not ours, and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for the collection or use of such information.

ARTICLE 8. Banner Advertising
8.1 We have contracted with an ad-service to place banner advertising on our Website. All of the data provided and generated by the ad-server software remains in our possession. This feature of our Website may, on occasion, set “cookies” on your computer. Any information collected or stored by the ad-service or the cookies is treated in the same manner as other information described in this statement.

ARTICLE 9. Children’s Personal Information
9.1 Consistent with the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act:

9.1.1 This site does NOT collect, use, or disclose personal information (including online contact information) of children under the age of thirteen (13).

9.1.2 In the event that a child under the age of 13 attempts to register on our site, we will NOT accept the registration and will delete information received from the child.

9.1.3 In the event that a child posts personal information in a public forum such as a chat room, we will attempt to delete that information once we become aware of it.

ARTICLE 10. Security of Your Personal Information
10.1 Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. employs reasonable security measures consistent with standard industry practice, for information collected through this Website. We believe that we have adequate security measures in place in our physical facilities to protect against the loss, misuse, or alteration of the information we collect on our Website. We also use internal protections to limit access to users’ personal information to only those employees who need the information to perform a specific job.

ARTICLE 11. Sale or Merger
11.1 If this Website is sold to, or merges with, another company not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc., you should expect that some or all of the information collected from this Website may be transferred to the buyer/surviving company. If so, CMP will seek to obligate the acquiring company to use any personal information transferred by this Website in a manner consistent with this statement, but cannot guarantee that it will be able to impose that requirement or that the acquiring company will comply.

ARTICLE 12. Legal Process
12.1 You should be aware that Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. may be required to disclose your personal information to the government or third parties under certain circumstances, such as in court or regulatory proceedings.

ARTICLE 13.  Contacting the Website

13.1        If you have any questions about this Privacy Statement, the practices of this Website, or your dealings with this Website, please contact us at: unsolved@unsolved.com.

ARTICLE 14.  general information

14.1        Choice of Law:  This Agreement and the Additional Terms shall be governed by, construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the State of California , as it is applied to agreements entered into and to be performed entirely within such state, without regard to conflict of law principles.

14.2        Choice of Forum:  You agree that any cause of action you or Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. brings to enforce this Agreement and/or the Additional Terms, or in connection with any matters related to this Website and/or the Privacy Statement, shall be submitted to arbitration in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America in accordance with the commercial rules and regulations of the American Arbitration Association then in effect (as amended herein), provided that said arbitration shall be heard before a single arbitrator, who shall be a retired judge, selected pursuant to such rules and regulations, and shall be conducted on an expedited basis and in confidence. The arbitrator’s decision shall be controlled by the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other agreements I may enter into with you, and shall be final and binding, and shall provide for each party to bear its own costs of arbitration and attorneys’ fees.  Each party expressly waives any right to a jury.  Judgment upon the award of the arbitrator may be entered or enforced in any court of competent jurisdiction. 

14.4        If any provision of this Agreement, or the application thereof to any person or circumstances, is held invalid or for any reason unenforceable then such provision shall be deemed superseded by a valid, enforceable provision that matches, as closely as possible, the original provision, and the other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.  The failure of either party to insist upon strict performance of any provision of this Agreement shall not be construed as a waiver of any provision or right.  Unless expressly provided otherwise, this Agreement is the entire agreement between you and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. with respect to the use of this Website and shall not be modified except in writing, signed by an authorized representative of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc.

ARTICLE 15.  European Union and Other Foreign Nations

15.1        This Website is governed by and operated in accordance with the laws of United States of America and is intended for enjoyment of residents of the United States.  Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. makes no representation that this Website is governed by or operated in accordance with the laws of other nations.  By using this Website and submitting any personal information, visitors from outside of the United States acknowledge this Website is subject to U.S. law, consent to the transfer of personal data to the U.S., and waive any claims that may arise under their own national laws.