Did Billy the Kid fake his own death?

Billy the Kid, Age 19

Brushy Bill, Age 17


Billy the Kid was easily the most notorious desperado of the Wild West. He reportedly killed 21 men, one for every year of his young life.  History tells us that “The Kid” was born William Bonney in New York City in 1859.  He later fought against rich ranchers in the Lincoln County Cattle War in New Mexico, and was given a death sentence for killing Sheriff William Brady.

Who is buried in Billy the Kid’s grave?

According to most sources, Lincoln County Sheriff Pat Garrett was eager to collect the $500 dollar bounty on Billy the Kid.  In July of 1881, he tracked down Billy in Fort Sumner, New Mexico, and killed him.

History also tells us that Billy was buried the following day in a simple grave.  But now some people say that history is wrong.  That Billy wasn’t the man in that grave. Sixty-eight years after Billy’s death, a man from Texas, named “Brushy Bill” Roberts, claimed he was Billy the Kid.

Research historian, William Tunstill, believed the public was misled about Billy the Kid:

“This whole legend of Bill the Kid… 90% of what we have heard and been taught as students in schools is not true.  There is no doubt… Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid was one and the same person.” 

Brushy Bill or Billy the Kid?

Most historians completely dismiss Brushy Bill’s story.  But there is evidence to support his claim.  It all started in 1948, when an attorney named William Morrison was told that Billy the Kid might not have died in 1881.  A client said he had actually fought Billy the Kid in the Lincoln County Wars and that the Kid was still alive.  Morrison was so intrigued that he decided to do some of his own investigating.  He traveled throughout the West talking to other old timers about Billy the Kid, and he discovered that many thought that Billy was still alive.  They said he was going by the name of “Brushy” Bill Roberts.  Finally, in 1949, Morrison made the trip to Hico, Texas, to confront Brushy Bill in person.  He wanted to ask Brushy if the rumors were true.  According to William Tunstill, Brushy was at first hesitant:

“We must keep in mind that this man did not seek publicity, he did not seek to come out from seclusion, he was drawn out.”

Plaque honoring Brushy Bill

Brushy Bill finally admitted that he was, in fact, Billy the Kid, and asked Morrison to help him get the official pardon that New Mexico’s governor had promised him back in 1879. But Morrison wanted proof that he was indeed speaking to the infamous outlaw.  It was then that Brushy Bill showed Morrison his scars, all of which matched the wounds received by the Kid during his time as an outlaw.  To further convince him, “Brushy Bill” took William Morrison on a guided tour of some of Billy’s former haunts in Lincoln County. Morrison died in 1976, but his daughter, Barbara Kuchler, remembered her father’s trip:

“Brushy Bill would give incidents that only someone that was actually involved in the Lincoln County War would have known. My father was convinced that this man was… Billy the Kid.”

Morrison then contacted five people who had known Billy the Kid during the Lincoln County War.  Each of them, separately, met Brushy Bill in person.  All five witnesses signed sworn affidavits stating that Brushy Bill Roberts was indeed Billy the Kid.  If this is true, then one puzzling question remains … What really happened on the night the Kid was supposedly killed?

According to Brushy Bill, on the night of the shooting, he was with his girlfriend, Celsa, and his partner Billy Barlow, at Jesus Silva’s house.  Unknown to the Kid, Garrett and his posse were waiting for him across the yard.  When Garrett opened fire, one of the first shots struck Barlow.  The shots that followed struck the Kid in the head and shoulder.  He passed out from the pain and woke up the following morning under the care of Celsa.  She informed him that Barlow had been killed and was being buried in Billy’s place.

According to William Tunstill, Pat Garrett knew he killed the wrong man:

“In a normal procedure, the sheriff would have brought the corpse to a place for anyone to witness.  He would have demonstrated his guns, his clothing, his boots, his rifle.  Pat Garrett did not follow that procedure.  He took every precaution to conceal the identity of the corpse.”

By 1950, William Morrison felt he had gathered enough evidence to request a pardon from Governor Mabry of New Mexico.  The Governor agreed to meet both men in person.  But the meeting turned into a press circus.  Brushy Bill was 90 years old at the time.  He was confused and scared by the crowd of reporters.

According to Barbara Kuchler, Brushy Bill’s testimony was all for nothing:

“The governor never even gave him a chance to present the evidence, by just flat out telling him he wasn’t even going to consider it.”

Morrison’s legal arguments and affidavits were not even entered into evidence.  Brushy Bill felt he had been humiliated, his claims ridiculed.  His pardon was not granted. Shortly after the meeting with Governor Mabry, Brushy Bill suffered a heart attack and died on a street in Hico, Texas.

Was Brushy Bill Roberts the notorious outlaw, Billy the Kid?  His friends and neighbors believe so and have even erected a memorial in his honor which reads, “…he spent the last days of his life trying to prove to the world his true identity.  We believe his story and pray to God for the forgiveness he solemnly asked for.”

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  1. Jeffrey

    I believe that Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid are the same. How do you know things another person couldn’t know as well as have the same scar wounds. Also the age thing a lot of people are saying the age thing is a factor yet a person can lie about their age as well to protect one’s identity. Billy was smart not dumb I am just saying.

    ————- J.


  2. Anonymous

    McDaniels, along with Severo Gallegos, Martile Able, Jose Montoya, and Bill and Sam Jones, all of whom had known Billy the Kid, signed affidavits claiming to verify that Roberts was in fact Billy the Kid.


    • william connally

      McDaniels has always intrigued me. Sort of a dead end. Supposedly as deadly as the Kid. At one time on the same side in the War but end up on opposing sides. Like I said intriguing.BtabK


  3. Anonymous

    Consider this, most people have no idea what eventually happened to Pat Garrett. After suposedly killing Billy the Kid, he was replaced as sheiff by no less than one of the deputies with him that night, William Poe. Poe also said in a signed affidated, “I think you shot the wrong guy Pat.” Not only did Pat Garrett loose the election for sheiff but his book about killing Billy was a complete flop. It would seem the people of the day doubted Garrett’s claim and showed it. Afterward, Garrett left New Mexico for Texas where several years later he was murdered by a proffessional killer known as “Killer Miller”. Its not known who hired Miller or why, there are several different therories but the truth went to the grave with Miller. Maybe it had something to do with keeping Billy the Kid dead? It would not be the first time the killer was killed in order to hide the truth. If it where discovered that Billy the Kid was indeed alive and well, the future of people such as Gov. Lou Wallace could suffer the same fate as Garrett’s? The truth isn’t as hard to find as people seem to think,more often than not a simple question tell’s it. Ask yourself, if Pat Garrett killed Billy the Kid, in a time when taking photo’s of dead outlaw’s was so popular. Why didn’t Garrett? After killing the most famous outlaw of the day??


    • Good points

      You made a very good point about why didn’t Garrett take a photo of the “dead” Billy the kid


    • Angel

      Pat Garrett was killed in Las Cruces NM off Hwy 70 E, not in Texas. I live right around the corner from the marker. He was buried in the Masonic Cemetery close to Mesilla, NM.


  4. Anonymous

    Brush was the kid, I’m from Texas and my grandpa was friends with billy and heard first hand the story’s. Billy was truly a amazing man and not the monster that some say he was. Billy fought for good reason not to just kill. I would like to think we all have a little billy the kid in us. Remember history is not always what it seems with all the cover ups that has been going on in our country and still going on. The real Story’s I heard about billy will live on in My memmeries forever and will be passed on to my children. See billy didn’t need any pardon cause God forgave him a long time ago. Long live Billy the kid


    • Michelle Williams

      I have no doubt I know Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid there are just too many similarities and I believe wholeheartedly that he was Billy the Kid Garrett did not kill him sorry Garrett fans


    • taylor

      I have done about 5 years of research on billy the kid and I have no doubts the news papers had it all wrong about the kid better known as William H Bonney. I believe billy the kid was not shot that night by sherriff Garrott after all they were friends and no body that was living at the time really knew what the kid looked like up close and I think a gun slinger fitting the description and figure of billy was shot on purpose to cover for the kid so he could escape and start a new life under a new name. He had all of the right scares and knew how and where the shootings took place and why they did.


  5. Anonymous

    I believe it, but my question to those who don’t is … If Brushy wasn’t the Kid then who was he? Where did he get the matching scares why did people sign the affidavits?


  6. Anonymous

    I believe he wasn’t killed,…very well said… D piland


  7. Jim Johnson

    You all are dead wrong. Brushy Bill was really Oliver Pleasant Roberts born outside of Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1879. If you have the guts, read my book. It contains all the evidence you need.


  8. TAZZ

    If you are life was under a law to be hung and you were 90 years old and were promised a pardon Years and years ago, WHY THE HELL NOT TRY AT 90!!!! No offence but hell I would feel lucky to get my second chance but also now I can try my luck at a pardon at 90. Well 90 years old is real old back then, now he knew going to the governor office and admitting he was billy the KID, he could have been arrested by all rights, the poor guy just wanted to right the ultimate wrong!! I believe brushy bill was BILLY THE KID!!! Cause I sure the hell would take a different name and wait and wait till I was 90 and try for a pardon then also!! Smart not stupid!! He sure did not want the fame or be in the spot light!


  9. Pat

    I believe brushy bill was the kid same scars look closely same features such as long fingers nose ears it matches!


  10. Michael mullinix

    I believe it no doubt billy the kid had so much good luck i could see it and billy the kid and pat garrett were friend’s if u watch the first young guns movie it will show pat and billy chating and then in the second one where pat and the girl are talking about all the good times they and billy had together so it only makes sense that pat could have killed the wrong guy and covered it up to give his friend a second chance and get the bounty


  11. Broad Ripple Jeff

    How much do you want for the photo of Billy The Kid, Jesse James, Hitler, and Bigfoot? I heard a rumor Elvis was there.


  12. James C

    I believe Billy the kid was in fact brushy bill because one of my uncles was a
    friend of Billy the kid, ( PALS )


  13. pat garrett

    hi. I have a picture I took of billy the kid, jesse james, hitler, and bigfoot playing poker. anyone want to buy it?


  14. Gary L.

    A couple of things stand out to me on this whole conspiracy thing regarding “Brushy Bill”.

    1) The man never sought public attention or recognition from anyone prior to his meeting with Mr. Morrison.

    2) “Brushy” knew things only “the kid” would know, and had the same marks on his body (bullet wounds) as well.

    3) Signed affidavids from those who knew “The Kid” swore “Brushy Bill” and “Billy the Kid” were one in the same person.

    4) In a time when “outlaws” frequently used alias’, it’s not uncommon to forget key details when a person is trying to conceal their identity…………..especially for such a long period of time.

    5) When the hearing took place for the pardon, it was treated as a joke………..and caused “Brushy” to have a stroke…………….which explains the possible lapse in key details about his past.

    Just sayin’………


  15. Anonymous

    May be an odd question. The night Pat Garrett allegedly shot Billy, what happened to the items Billy would have had or brought with him to that house? If he was barefoot or in sox, what happened to the boots that the person had? What happened to anything else that the person might have had?


  16. BBR Historian

    There are five sworn affidavits from individuals who believed Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid. There is proof that 3 had never seen William Bonney, who was killed in 1881. Robert E. Lee, in his affidavit, said he first saw William Bonney in the summer of 1889. DeWitt Travis was born in 1890. Martile Able (née Martelia Bilberry) was born in 1873. She was living in her parents’ household in Lampasas County, Texas, in 1880. Tunstill, in “Billy the Kid and me Are The Same”‘ said Martile and her husband John Able, hosted Brushy Bill in El Paso when he returned from Mexico in 1884. Not possible. Martile was only 11; Martile and John Able married in 18989; and did not move to El Paso until 1902.


    • kgb

      you were drunk when you wrote the memo 18189 keep the faith


    • Mary L Grayson

      Your all mixed up, what are you doing just making up date’s and where there from to get your point across you really don’t make sense what you know these people personally do you


  17. A McCarty

    There are still McCarty ‘s that claim to be cousins to Billy the Kid. A good genealogist and a simple cheek swab will tell you who’s in what grave. The answer is really easy to aquire; seems no surviving Brushy relatives truly want to prove anything.


  18. Anonymous

    I believe Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid. The only part that confuses me is about his mother, her name.


  19. It's possible

    Most things we know about Billy the Kid are not set in stone, so Brushy may well have been the kid. So for now, I think it’s definitely a possibility.


  20. Billy"the kid"Webster

    I believe brushy bill WAS the kid! He could have cared less weather anyone else believed it.


  21. Bowdre band

    I also believe that “Killer Miller” was also friends with brushy Billy the kid and worked as a regulator earlier on under another name which I have yet to find but I believe that killer Miller is none other than John Miller a previous claimant to be the kid.


  22. Bowdre band

    I believe billy Barlow and Billy the kid were close friends and both present at maxwell house. I believe the kid and Barlow both were shot in the ambush but Barlow escaped. I believe Billy Barlow was Wait for it. Brushy Bill Roberts, I also have another possibility that being two Billy’s in the maxwell house and sumner that it’s possible brushy was actually Billy Barlow aka the real billy the kid and billy “kid Antrim” William h Bonney mcarty was killed but the real Billy the kid aka Barlow now known as brushy bill escaped with injuries.


  23. Bowdre band

    I believe billy Barlow and Billy the kid were close friends and both present at maxwell house. I believe the kid and Barlow both were shot in the ambush but Barlow escaped. I believe Billy Barlow was Wait for it. Brushy Bill Roberts, I also have another possibility that being two Billy’s in the maxwell house and sumner that it’s possible brushy was actually Billy Barlow aka the real billy the kid and billy “kid Antrim” William h Bonney mcarty was killed but the real Billy the kid aka Barlow now known as brushy bill escaped with injuries.


  24. Pwilliamson

    I believe Brushy Bill was “The Kid”. Pat Garrett supposedly kills the most wanted man in the state maybe the country and does not do what was common for the day to put his remains on display and have pictures taken with people standing around the body like it was a trophy Whitetail. Also all Brushy Bill (The Kid) wanted was the pardon he was promised. I believe he wanted that pardon so he could finally live in peace, not having to look over his shoulder.


  25. Fjames

    I believe it ho


  26. Aaron Wilson

    Always loved reading books on Billy the Kid


  27. jennifer page

    i wonder if elvis presley will will make a confession?


  28. AL

    My granddad knew Brushy Bill personally when he was a teenager. He said that Bill would tell stories of Billy the Kid in the third person, but would slip up from time to time and say, “then ‘I’ went….”, being caught up in the story. He said that Bill told him that Billy’s mother was a single mother (I don’t know what happened to his dad) and people would say things about his mother. He felt the need to protect her honor and became very fast at drawing his gun. Gun slingers heard this rumor and wanted to see for themselves. They would come up behind him and call him out. He was a very quick draw and it was “kill or be killed”. Pat Garrett WAS his friend and was glad to help him fake his death and start a new life.


  29. It's true think about it -.-

    There’s to much supported evidence and whenever you seen the end of the film the old rusty gun adds to it but the man was the same in every way an all he wanted was a pardon before he passed Billy the kid id say spent his young years gettin into unreasonable trouble and later years trying to make up for it but he didn’t have to have that pardon he had to have God on his side because he lived til 90 that’s not all luck truly would have been an honorable man to meet if you ask me


  30. EJ

    I Believe he was billy the kid. There needs to be a movie made called “The Legend of Billy” showing life of Brushy Bill after the Garrett killing. Supposedly led an crazy life. He rode with the Rosevelts Rough Riders , Rode with the nortorious Poncho Villa, and even worked the Wild West show under Bill Cody. All under different allias to protect him from getting hung or hunted down by the Pinkertons.


  31. Russell Brown

    I believe young guns 2 had told the real story of Billy the kid and brushy bill roberts one of the same person a person never lies about who they really are


  32. Daniel Hill

    I full heartedly believe brushy Bill was Billy the kid. (When a person tells you who they are…Believe them)


  33. Wanda Stevens

    I also believe Billy was not killed.


  34. Thomas

    it is possible he is Billy the kid. But his eyes tell a different story. Watching the show later on though, he IS Billy the kid, no doubt


  35. Noonen

    I believe it.


  36. Anonymous

    I believe it. Strange how many people can’t stand changes in history, or how it has been handed down regardless of evidence.


  37. D. Piland

    What many people don’t know is that the supposed Billy the Kid was ambushed by Garrett, who was waiting in a dark bedroom, and shot as soon as “Billy” entered the room, giving him no chance to defend himself. So, it seems very possible to me that Garrett could have killed the wrong man under those circumstances. Bad lighting and a shooting that happened very quickly. I have also read that, at one time, Billy the Kid and Garrett had been friends. If Garrett killed the wrong man, he might well have tried to cover up his failed attempt to kill Billy, covered for himself and his one time friend. Garrett tried to make his fortune from a book about his killing Billy, so it would have served his purpose to both cover up his mistake, while also giving Billy a chance at starting a new life. As for forgiveness, the people killed by Billy were involved in a very dirty range war, and those men killed by Billy were probably either killed in acts of revenge, or in self defense. Two were killed when Billy escaped from jail, to avoid being hung. Billy the Kid was said to have had amazingly good luck, this could have been one more case of “The Kid’s” good fortune. It all seems very possible to me that he took the second chance given him and led a quite life after he was supposed to have been killed. I like to think that was the case, Billy was not the evil outlaw he is so often played out to be in movies. More of a very
    young kid who got into a very bad situation, and fought for those he was loyal to. Those he fought against were the ones who needed the forgiveness, IMO.


    • Robert Brown Jr.

      I’m with you in that there’s so much evidence stating that he wasn’t killed by Garrett that night. You know how the media does anything for readers and money including lying. I’ve always been a big fan of Billy The Kid. Not that he was a murderer(I’m sure he never killed anyone that didn’t need it) but that he stood and took on corruption, especially when they were SUPPOSEDLY the law!!


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  • Share data with third parties to fulfill service requests and to perform business functions (e.g., CMP contracts with third parties to provide services on our behalf such as customer support and consulting services; 
  • Share data with third parties as required by law or to protect CMP in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to legal requirements or comply with legal process served on the CMP; (b) protect and defend CMP’s rights or property; or (c) protect the personal safety of CMP personnel or members of the public in appropriate circumstances.
  • Share data with third parties if CMP and/or its assets (or a portion of its assets) are sold, assigned, transferred, or merged, or if CMP undergoes some other change including a change to its corporate form or as part of a bankruptcy proceeding. 
  • Share data with third parties to offer you products and services that may be of interest to you professionally or personally (e.g., apps or software).  Users can request their information to be removed from such lists by contacting us.
  • Share data with third parties under other unanticipated situations, but only with your consent.
  • Share your email address, but only as permitted by the CMP Email Policy, as follows:

Your email address will be used only by the CMP, its entities and CMP vendors performing member services, or offering products on CMP’s behalf.  CMP does not sell or rent email addresses to anyone outside the CMP, nor does CMP share email addresses to unrelated third-parties, affiliates, or CMP members.  CMP also shares your email address with third parties to enable CMP to take security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data.  Finally, CMP shares email addresses with third parties as necessary for CMP to perform certain services on our behalf, such as packaging, mailing and delivering products and processing event registrations and to respond to your service requests.



You can manage your profile and email preferences, including “opting out” of email by contacting us. If you prefer to receive hard copy mailings only from CMP, you can contact us and request to have your name and address removed from the list we provide to third parties.


For California residents, please consult the “California Privacy Rights” section for additional considerations. 


Our processing of your data is based upon your consent, contract performance (e.g., your purchase of products), legitimate business interest (e.g., direct marketing of goods and services), or compliance with law.  You have the right to object to our processing of your data or to restrict our processing of your data. In addition, if you have consented to the processing of your Personal Data, you have the right to withdraw your consent at any time.



In addition to the rights as explained in this Privacy Policy, under California law, California residents who provide personal information (as defined in the statute) to obtain products or services for personal, family, or household use are entitled to request and obtain from us, once a calendar year, information about the personal information we shared, if any, with other businesses for marketing uses. If applicable, this information would include the categories of personal information and the names and addresses of those businesses with which we shared such personal information for the immediately prior calendar year (e.g., requests made in the current year will receive information about the prior year).


To obtain this information please write to us at:



4303 Verdugo Ave.

Burbank, CA  91505


 Attn: CMP -- California Privacy Law.


Please include your full name and address.



CMP complies with the Canada Anti-Spam Law which requires you to opt-in to receive unauthorized Commercial Electronic Messages (as defined under the Canada Anti-Spam Law).




CMP implements commercially reasonable security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data. Except for membership directories, membership lists and registration lists, and the sharing of information as set forth in this Privacy Policy, we restrict access to Personal Data to certain companies who need the data to operate, develop, or improve our services. These individuals or partner organizations are bound by confidentiality obligations and may be subject to discipline, including termination and criminal prosecution, if they fail to meet these obligations.


Unfortunately, no data transmission over the Internet or electronic storage is fully secure. Accordingly, and despite our reasonable efforts to protect your Personal Data from unauthorized access, use, or disclosure, CMP cannot guarantee or warrant the security of the Personal Data you transmit to us, or to or from our online Sites. If you have questions about this Privacy Policy, please contact us.


Certain areas of the Sites require the use of a user ID, email address, or password as an additional security measure that helps protect your Personal Data.  To help you protect your privacy, these Sites have tools to help you log in and log out.


We rely on you to update and correct your Personal Data.  If you are a user of our Sites, subscriber to [CMP product], purchaser of CMP products and services, you can review, update and correct your information directly on CMP’s website or by contacting us using the information in the “Contact Information” section below.


Typically, we retain your Personal Data for the period necessary to fulfill the purposes outlined in this Privacy Policy, unless a longer retention period is required or permitted by law.  This may include retaining your Personal Data indefinitely, even after you are no longer a CMP member, in order to provide you with future marketing opportunities and other purposes, as well as to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, or enforce any of our agreements.  


Please note that you can request, at any time, that we delete your Personal Data.  All requests must be directed to the contact in the “Contact Information” section below.  We can decide to delete your Personal Data if we believe that the data is incomplete, inaccurate, or that our continued use and storage are contrary to our obligations to other members, individuals, or third parties.  When we delete your Personal Data, it will be removed from our active databases or anonymized so that the data is no longer identified with you, but the data may remain in our archives if CMP determines that it is not practical or possible to delete it.

Your Personal Data is processed in the United States, where privacy laws may be less stringent than the laws in your country and where the government, courts, or law enforcement may be able to access your data.  By submitting your Personal Data to us, you agree to the transfer, storage and processing of your Personal Data in the United States.

You, as the data subject, have the right to lodge a complaint with a supervisory authority, in particular in the Member State of your habitual residence, place of work, or place of the alleged infringement, if you believe that the processing of your personal data does not comply with legal requirements.

In the event we determine the occurrence of a data security incident, we will notify you by email, US mail, telephone, or other means as permitted by law.

If you have questions, comments, or complaints concerning our privacy practices or if you wish to change, access, or remove your Personal Data, please contact us as indicated below.  We will attempt, where practical, to respond to your requests and to provide you with additional privacy related information.

Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. is the owner of this Website and retains all ownership rights to the information collected at this Website. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. reserves the right to change, modify, add, or remove provisions of this Privacy Statement. Any changes to this Privacy Statement will be posted here, and we encourage you to check back from time to time. In addition, Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. will notify registered users of changes as they occur.

We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit networkadvertising.org. Your use of the site constitutes your agreement to accept cookies, beacons and third-party advertising. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for third-party ads.

ARTICLE 1. Personalization
1.1 We may use the contact information you give us to better tailor your Website experience to your interests, and to send you information about Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. and its services as well as promotional material on behalf of some of our partners. We may use other information that you provide to us to show you content in which you may be interested and to display the content according to your preferences. We will also share this information within Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. in order to enhance your experience on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. Websites.
1.2 In addition, we may share this information with advertisers or other third parties that are not part of the Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. family on an aggregate or other basis that does not disclose your identity or contact information.

ARTICLE 2. Online Surveys/Contests
2.1 From time to time, we may conduct online surveys and contests. These may ask you for contact information (like name or email address) and demographic information (like zip code or age).
2.2 We may use this contact information from our surveys and contests to provide you with information about our company and promotional material on behalf of some of our partners, and to contact you when necessary.

ARTICLE 3. Shopping/Commercial Services
3.1 This Website may offer shopping services, which may be offered by us or by a firm that operates a store under contract with us. If our Website offers shopping or other commercial services, you will use a customer order form to request information, products, and services. The order form will ask you to give us contact information (like name or email address), financial information (like account or credit card numbers), and demographic information (like zip code or age).

3.2 We will use the financial information that you provide to bill you for products and services. By giving our Website your credit card and related personal information, you are authorizing our store to give that information to the merchant and credit card company in order to confirm and fulfill your order.

3.3 We will use contact information from the order form to fulfill your orders. We may also use contact data to get in touch with you when necessary. We will not otherwise use or distribute your financial information without your prior approval.

ARTICLE 4. Public forums
4.1 This Website may make available chat rooms, blogs, forums, message boards, and news groups. Please remember that any information that you disclose in these areas becomes public information and you should exercise caution when deciding to disclose your personal information. Information disclosed by you or by others enters the public domain and may be freely used by any other persons or entities using the site.

ARTICLE 5. Information Sharing With Third Parties
5.1 From time to time we may enter into a special relationship with another company that is not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. to provide additional features at this Website. These special relationships may include “powered by” partners, business partners, sponsors, and co-branded sites (referred to here as “co-branded pages”). These might include, for example, pages that share our name and that of another entity. You should look for a specific privacy statement on any such co-branded page. Any personal information that you provide when signing up at one of those co-branded pages may be shared with our third party partner. You should also check our partner’s website for information regarding its privacy policies.

5.2 Also, the nature of some features of our Website may require that we share personal information about you with persons or companies outside of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. For example, this may occur at a feature that enables you, via our Website, to ask questions of persons or entities that are not part of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. By responding to those features of the site, whether by email or direct entry of information on our Website, you are consenting to our transferring that information to such persons or entities.

5.3 With respect to specific registration modules, like contests, we may disclose personal information collected, and we may post a conspicuous statement on the registration module to the effect that we will be disclosing the information collected with third parties.

5.4 Finally, we may share any of the information collected from you with these other non- Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc companies in an aggregate basis. The aggregated information is not linked to any information that can identify you.

ARTICLE 6. IP Address and Log Files
6.1 We may use your IP address to administer our Website, to help diagnose problems with our server, to analyze trends, to track users’ webpage movements, to help identify you and your shopping cart, and to gather broad demographic information for aggregate use.

ARTICLE 7. Cookies
7.1 This Website may use a standard technology called a “cookie” to collect information about how you use the Website. Cookies reside on your computer and help our Website to recognize your computer’s browser as a previous visitor. This information allows us to customize delivery of information. For example, our Website may use cookies to save and remember registration information or preferences that you may have set while browsing the Website, to keep track of your shopping cart, to ensure you don’t see the same ad content repeatedly, to deliver content specific to your interests, and to save your password so you do not have to re-enter it each time you visit our site. We use cookies only to gather information as indicated in this policy.

7.2 In addition, on occasion our site may also set a “session cookie” which helps us administer the Website. The session cookie expires when you close your browser and does not retain any information about you after it expires.

7.3 Finally, we may also use an ad network provider to help present advertisements on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. websites. This ad network provider, like other advertising service vendors, uses cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies on the hard drive of your computer to serve you advertisements tailored to interests you have shown by browsing on this and other sites you have visited, and to determine whether you have seen a particular advertisement before and to avoid sending you duplicate advertisements. In doing so, the provider collects non-personal data such as your browser type, your operating system, web pages visited, time of visits, content viewed, ads viewed, and other clickstream data. The use of cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies by these ad network providers is subject to their own privacy policies, not ours, and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for the collection or use of such information.

ARTICLE 8. Banner Advertising
8.1 We have contracted with an ad-service to place banner advertising on our Website. All of the data provided and generated by the ad-server software remains in our possession. This feature of our Website may, on occasion, set “cookies” on your computer. Any information collected or stored by the ad-service or the cookies is treated in the same manner as other information described in this statement.

ARTICLE 9. Children’s Personal Information
9.1 Consistent with the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act:

9.1.1 This site does NOT collect, use, or disclose personal information (including online contact information) of children under the age of thirteen (13).

9.1.2 In the event that a child under the age of 13 attempts to register on our site, we will NOT accept the registration and will delete information received from the child.

9.1.3 In the event that a child posts personal information in a public forum such as a chat room, we will attempt to delete that information once we become aware of it.

ARTICLE 10. Security of Your Personal Information
10.1 Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. employs reasonable security measures consistent with standard industry practice, for information collected through this Website. We believe that we have adequate security measures in place in our physical facilities to protect against the loss, misuse, or alteration of the information we collect on our Website. We also use internal protections to limit access to users’ personal information to only those employees who need the information to perform a specific job.

ARTICLE 11. Sale or Merger
11.1 If this Website is sold to, or merges with, another company not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc., you should expect that some or all of the information collected from this Website may be transferred to the buyer/surviving company. If so, CMP will seek to obligate the acquiring company to use any personal information transferred by this Website in a manner consistent with this statement, but cannot guarantee that it will be able to impose that requirement or that the acquiring company will comply.

ARTICLE 12. Legal Process
12.1 You should be aware that Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. may be required to disclose your personal information to the government or third parties under certain circumstances, such as in court or regulatory proceedings.

ARTICLE 13.  Contacting the Website

13.1        If you have any questions about this Privacy Statement, the practices of this Website, or your dealings with this Website, please contact us at: unsolved@unsolved.com.

ARTICLE 14.  general information

14.1        Choice of Law:  This Agreement and the Additional Terms shall be governed by, construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the State of California , as it is applied to agreements entered into and to be performed entirely within such state, without regard to conflict of law principles.

14.2        Choice of Forum:  You agree that any cause of action you or Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. brings to enforce this Agreement and/or the Additional Terms, or in connection with any matters related to this Website and/or the Privacy Statement, shall be submitted to arbitration in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America in accordance with the commercial rules and regulations of the American Arbitration Association then in effect (as amended herein), provided that said arbitration shall be heard before a single arbitrator, who shall be a retired judge, selected pursuant to such rules and regulations, and shall be conducted on an expedited basis and in confidence. The arbitrator’s decision shall be controlled by the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other agreements I may enter into with you, and shall be final and binding, and shall provide for each party to bear its own costs of arbitration and attorneys’ fees.  Each party expressly waives any right to a jury.  Judgment upon the award of the arbitrator may be entered or enforced in any court of competent jurisdiction. 

14.4        If any provision of this Agreement, or the application thereof to any person or circumstances, is held invalid or for any reason unenforceable then such provision shall be deemed superseded by a valid, enforceable provision that matches, as closely as possible, the original provision, and the other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.  The failure of either party to insist upon strict performance of any provision of this Agreement shall not be construed as a waiver of any provision or right.  Unless expressly provided otherwise, this Agreement is the entire agreement between you and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. with respect to the use of this Website and shall not be modified except in writing, signed by an authorized representative of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc.

ARTICLE 15.  European Union and Other Foreign Nations

15.1        This Website is governed by and operated in accordance with the laws of United States of America and is intended for enjoyment of residents of the United States.  Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. makes no representation that this Website is governed by or operated in accordance with the laws of other nations.  By using this Website and submitting any personal information, visitors from outside of the United States acknowledge this Website is subject to U.S. law, consent to the transfer of personal data to the U.S., and waive any claims that may arise under their own national laws.