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A woman who’s terrified of leaving her house boards a train and vanishes.
CASE DETAILS  Dottie’s missing persons poster On June 12, 1985, Jule Caylor drove his wife Dottie to a train station in Pleasant Hill, California, 18 miles from Oakland. Dottie entered the station and purchased a ticket. Although a simple task performed by millions each day, for Dottie Caylor, purchasing the ticket was a test of courage. Dottie suffered from agoraphobia, an irrational and overwhelming fear of being in public places. No one knows for sure if she actually boarded the train, because since that day, there has been no trace of Dottie Caylor. At first, friends thought Dottie may have left to escape an unhappy marriage and start a new life in another city. But as the months and years went by, there was no word from Dottie. Dottie’s sister, Diane Rusnak, believed Jule was to blame for Dottie’s disappearance:
 Jule and Dottie Dottie married Jule Caylor in 1973 and the young couple settled in the Oakland suburb of Concord. According to Jule, as Dottie grew older, her home became a self-imposed prison:
Dottie and Jule’s marriage eventually deteriorated. Dottie was often home alone, because Jule worked out of town over fifty percent of the time. Then in November 1981, their relationship erupted in violence. Dottie’s friend, Paula Powers, recalled Dottie’s first physical altercation with her husband:
But according to Jule, it was Dottie who started the fight:
 Dottie had a secret PO box and bank account In 1984, Dottie decided to join a support group called “Women in Transition.” Without ever telling Jule, she attended meetings for over a year. Shelly Wilson, a friend of Dottie’s, noticed an immediate change in her friend:
In addition, Dottie secretly rented a post office box to receive her mail without Jule knowing about it. She also opened a personal bank account and transferred $5,000 into a cashier’s check. Jule Caylor was shocked to learn of his wife’s devious behavior:
 Dottie’s purse was found in her car Then, one month before Dottie’s disappearance, Jule told her he had accepted a job transfer to Salt Lake City. He recalled Dottie’s reaction:
According to Jule, just a few days before he was to leave for Salt Lake City, he drove Dottie to the train station. Jule was certain that Dottie had her purse, as well as her overnight bag as she walked in the train station the last time. But he can’t be sure that Dottie ever boarded the train:
 Did Dottie really leave on a train? The next day, Jule took the train home from work. In the train station parking lot, he was surprised to find Dottie’s Volkswagen parked next to his car:
Shelley Wilson also found it strange that Dottie left her purse behind:
Over the next four days, Jule left notes on Dottie’s car, asking her to contact him. He expressed his love for her in the notes and pleaded with Dottie to come home. Jule waited five days to file a missing persons report. Two weeks later, Jule moved to Salt Lake City, where he built a comfortable new life for himself:
Many years have passed and still no one knows if Dottie Caylor left to escape an unhappy marriage or if she was simply the victim of foul play. The Concord Police Department is still treating Dottie’s disappearance as a homicide. Police do not consider Jule Caylor a suspect but a “person of interest.” Watch this case now on Amazon Prime in season one with Robert Stack and season three with Dennis Farina. Also available on YouTube with Robert Stack and Dennis Farina. Various seasons available now on Hulu. SUBMIT A TIP |
Mike
What happened to the $5000 cashiers check? That check is bothering me. Was it cashed? Where and by whom?
Inga
So Sad if she hid everything else from him why would she ask him for a ride and if he gave her a ride how did her purse end up back in her car SMH he’s gotten away with murder so sad peace to Dottie..
Anonymous
He admitted to driving her car to the location it was found. He just doesn’t know how it got to the parking lot.
Tara
He followed her to the airport and did something to her there. Giving the fact they had a fight, she was venturing on her own, changing her hair style and hanging out with those women. He knows what happened to her.
Anonymous
Someone dropped her car off to deceive the police into thinking she went there. But it is confusing because the husband verified her going there.
Anonymous
The first episode of Robert Stack was very historical. So I will explain my basic principles. No trace is the best trace of them all. It is a textbook example of a covered up crime scene. Because the person moved right away. The body is not around the home. It could be around where he worked as a 2nd home. Unfortunately there is no tracers they can put on him because he moved to Salt Lake City. He seemed to be more around that Volkswagen than Dottie. I’m sure witnesses saw him and he had to explain evidence. And he just kept cussing about her. I couldn’t believe that he was still that much displeased with her.
Nicola
Jule Caylor is guilty as hell of murdering his wife. There was a wealth of information left out of the UM segment. All of this information comes from a probable cause affidavit filed in 2004/2005 by the police in Concord, CA. For starters (keeping in mind that Jule says he last saw Dottie on 6/12/85):
1. Jule Caylor only worked for an hour and a half on 6/12/85. He left work and used 6 and a half hours of sick leave on the day she disappeared.
2. Jule took 8 hours of sick leave on 6/11/85. He used four hours on 6/13/85, and then used a full 8 hours again on 6/14/85. This was all verified by detectives looking at his work calendar.
3. Dottie had written several letters to Jule’s parents accusing him of abusing her (physically and emotionally) for years. She repeatedly had said that he had abandoned her on various holidays and events (Christmas even one time) to run off and carry on extramarital affairs. In one letter, she says Jule had told her that when he was younger, he built a bomb and “stuffed it up the ass of the neighbors sleeping dog” and blew it up while masturbating.
4. In another letter to Jule’s parents, Dottie had said that Jule had planned on killing his first wife because she was going to “bankrupt” him during their divorce proceedings. He told Dottie he was going to sneak into his first wife’s home at night and slit her throat, and that no one would ever accuse him of doing it. Despite Jule saying it would be easy for him to disappear into the Alaskan wilderness, Dottie says she talked Jule out of doing it.
5. In yet another letter, Dottie said this: “Jule’s threats to ‘pop me off’ as he puts it, may succeed, but in the long run, it won’t get him anywhere. The neighbors are watching him now, to help protect me, especially because of his 1981 violence against me. And if he carries through with his murder threats, he’ll just find himself sitting in jail for the rest of his life.”
6. During the investigation into Dottie’s disappearance, detectives were never able to find anyone (reliable) other than Jule who claimed to have seen Dottie alive on 6/12/85.
7. An insurance agent in Utah who was working with Jule to transfer his insurance over, had said that Jule repeatedly made advances towards her while at her office. During a conversation with her, Jule had said that he “didn’t believe in divorce; it would be easier to do away with them.” Jule also showed her several aerial photos that he had taken of a forest and the insurance agent suspected he was showing her pictures where he had buried Dottie’s body.
8. The lady (Della Vigil) whom Jule had proposed marriage to 6 months prior to Dottie’s disappearance had no idea about the fact that Jule and Dottie were still married. In fact, the police didn’t even know about her existence until a friend of Della’s recognized Jule on UM and called the hotline. Della had told police that Jule told her that he had no family and was married to an “oriental” woman but had divorced her ten years prior. During a holiday stay with Jule at the tail end of 1985, Jule’s daughter was coming to stay with them and at that point he finally confessed about his marriage to Dottie. He claimed that their relationship was “asinine”, told her about the physical assault, and claimed that he feared for his life when he was around Dottie. Della told police that Jule simply claimed that Dottie wanted to “make him know what it was like to be alone” and simply vanished (kind of like Gone Girl in a way) to disrupt his life. He told Della that Dottie was not going to kill him, and, “If I have to, I’ll kill her first. As a matter of fact, she’s gone and if she’s dead someplace…it’s good riddance.” He also told Della, “You don’t have to worry about her coming to interfere in our lives. You don’t have to worry, I will protect you, she’s not going to come hurt you or me anymore. Maybe she is dead somewhere, maybe somebody killed her, and if somebody killed her, good riddance.” Della had said she wanted to help Jule clear his name with police, but he was never interested and always appeared indifferent. After seeing how cold blooded he appeared to be handling Dottie’s disappearance, Della became fearful of Jule and suspected that he murdered her. She had cut her visit with him short, and called friends and said that if they didn’t hear from her in ten hours to call the police because Jule had killed her. The detectives asked what Jule had said to her to make her become so fearful of Jule so quickly, and she had said that Jule bragged to her about how easy it would be to bury a body and that no one would ever suspect anything. He went into detail about how he buried Dottie’s dog, and knew how to bury it to eliminate odors to not alarm neighbors. He said that if he ever wanted to get rid of a person, he would do the same thing he did with the dog.
9. The plan was for Jule to move to Utah while Dottie stayed behind and lived at the home they had once shared. One of Dottie’s friends became worried after repeated attempts to call her home went unanswered. She was also worried because she knew that Dottie would never go anywhere without her purse. On one of the days trying to call Dottie at her house, Jule answered and told her that Dottie was missing. She told him to call the police, but he didn’t. It was only after “consulting” with a neighbor who was a police officer, that Jule finally reported her missing.
10. When UM re-aired the segment in the early 2000’s, and man had e-mailed the show a tip about Jule. He was Jule’s middle and high school classmate and had said that he wrote a paper in 7th or 8th grade titled, “How to commit the perfect murder”. It creeped the teacher and the students out.
11. The next door neighbor of Jule and Dottie had found a rusty meat clever hidden under some ivy on his fence after Jule had moved away and Dottie disappeared. Prior to this, Jule had asked him not to cut the ivy away because it was holding the fence up. The same neighbor said that when he was in the house (after Dottie’s disappearance) helping Jule move, he could smell what smelled like burning flesh inside. Jule gave the man a 50 lb sack of sulfur for him to use “fertilizer”. He also had said that he saw Jule pour a concrete slab for a patio in his backyard around the time that Dottie had disappeared.
12. Dottie’s friend, after finding out that she was missing, went to the house she shared with Jule. Jule walked her around the house and saw her clothing neatly folded in her room. She knew Dottie would have taken these things if she did in fact plan on leaving the house and going elsewhere. She asked to see Dottie’s purse, and Jule showed her. She removed the contents and saw the wallet, medical card, and bee sting kit. She made a “big deal” to Jule that Dottie would have never went anywhere without her medical card or bee sting kit. She went to the house because she knew that Dottie was afraid of Jule, and thought that maybe Jule had Dottie locked up in the house against her will. She claims that Jule was more concerned with his financial situation instead of Dottie’s well being.
13. Several of Dottie’s friends confirmed that she was in a support group that specified in helping battered women / victims of domestic violence prepare to leave their husbands and file for divorce.
14. None of Dottie’s friends had ever heard her talk about disappearing for a long period of time, or running off with a “mystery man”. The last time she went on a date with someone other than Jule (in addition to the support groups she was in, she was also involved in a singles group) was in late of 1984. None of the men she dated ever went back on other dates with her, only one.
15. When detectives reopened the case in 2004, they reinterviewed Della Vigil. She told them that in 1985, Jule had complained to her about the tenants in the house he and Dottie shared slaughtered an animal inside the house and got blood all over the walls.
16. The rental agent who managed the property after Jule moved to Utah said that Jule told her that Dottie was moving to Utah with him.
17. Dottie had told her sister that she was going to stay with a friend until Jule left and moved to Utah. Once he was in Utah, she would return to the house. Dottie’s sister found out about a moving truck outside of Dottie’s house and went over to confront Jule on 6/19/85. Jule had all of Dottie’s belongings in the truck and was planning on taking them to Utah with him. Dottie’s sister began to yell and question why he was taking Dottie’s things if she planned on coming back home when he left. Jule was reluctant to let them take anything, and said that Dottie could get the things in Utah if she ever resurfaced. Jule also never had called Dottie’s sister from 6/12 up until she confronted him on 6/19/85 to ask about Dottie’s whereabouts. In the police report that Jule filed, he had Dottie listed under her maiden name. Dottie’s sister said that was “about as close to distancing as you could get”.
18. Dottie’s sister hired private investigators to look into finding Dottie. They found nothing. The cost of hiring them was high, and she asked Jule to help contribute some money he was receiving from renting the house out. He claimed expenses were too high and that he couldn’t contribute a couple hundred dollars a month to help locate Dottie.
19. Jule repeatedly turned down offers from police, Dottie’s sister, and Della Vigil to take a polygraph test. A polygraph expert even suggested that he only answer one question with regards to knowing the whereabouts of Dottie, and he still refused.
20. Dottie’s parents passed away in 1997 and 2005. She did not attend the funeral services or sent a “mystery” card or flowers, etc.
21. Dottie sent a birthday card to a friend on 6/5/85 which read, “In the home stretch, a few more weeks and he’ll finally be out of here! Hooray!”.
22. Dottie refused to sign the loan papers Jule had repeatedly asked her to. Without her signature, he wouldn’t be able to buy the home in Utah. He eventually had to have his parents put their house up for collateral to purchase the house in Utah. There is no evidence that Dottie knew about Jule’s plans to rent the house out after he moved to Utah. The plan was for Dottie to live there. Jule signed the rental agreement on 6/7/85 while Dottie was still alive. IMO, he planned on killing her (once she wouldn’t sign the loan), and then rent the house out at double the price of the mortgage payment to receive more money. Jule had said that he and Dottie’s original agreement was that Dottie was going to pay him $400 a month to live in the house while he was in Utah. The rental agreement was for $650 a month for tenants to live in the house. This is extremely cold, if Jule is innocent (and at this point, I don’t think there is any way, shape, or form that he is). He claimed that Dottie was still alive, knew that she planned on returning to the house and living in it, yet he goes out and moves her things out of the house so he can rent it before she can even return home?! Where was Dottie going to go if she ever did come back home and found that tenants were living inside the house?
23. In 2004, the police looked into Dottie’s purse and inventoried the contents. They found the instructions on how to use the bee sting kit, but not the actual bee sting kit. Dottie would have needed these instructions to use it. She would have taken them with the kit, but she didn’t.
24. Jule’s “Herculean effort” comment: “I have faith in myself Sweetheart. If I did not I could have never come here. That took a most Herculean effort – one which you will probably never fully understand (because it was so difficult I really cannot talk about it or think about it coherently to tell you about it yet).”
25. In 2004, Detectives scanned Jule’s backyard where he poured the concrete patio with a radar device and found an “anomaly” underneath it.
26. Even though Jule said Dottie wasn’t planning to return until after June 24, he proceeded to repaint the inside of their house, put it up for rent, and took most of Dottie’s possessions with him when he moved to Utah. Jule claimed he was forced to put the house up for rent because Dottie didn’t sign the refinancing papers, but it turned out Jule originally signed a rental contract on June 7, five days before she left on her trip
27. In January 1988, the Concord P.D. received an anonymous handwritten letter postmarked from Gary, Indiana. It claimed that Jule had murdered Dottie by striking her with a tire iron in their garage before he buried her body under a birch tree in a remote area. It even contained a hand-drawn map to the alleged burial location. Years later, DNA testing was performed on saliva from the envelope’s flap and stamp and found that it had male characteristics. A document examiner thought the handwriting on the letter shared similarities with Jule’s handwriting, but neither the DNA or handwriting were ever matched to anyone
28. In 1997, the Caylors’ former next-door neighbour in Concord found a rusted meat cleaver with duct tape on the handle underneath some ivy on a fence next to his property. He recalled a conversation from around the time of Dottie’s disappearance where Jule advised him not to cut the ivy because it would cause the fence to collapse.
29. The neighbour also remembered Jule pouring a concrete patio in his backyard shortly after Dottie disappeared.
All of this information comes from a probable cause affidavit filed in 2004/2005 by the police in Concord, CA.
Danny Giovanni
Prove it. Obviously you can’t 9 years later and he’s still free. Good for him, to get free of a toxic thing like her.
Get Real
Hi Jule!
Marie Smith
You’ve gotten away with nothing. God is coming for you. And you will pay greatly, you wretch.
Tom White
I bet they’ll find her body underneath the patio. Don’t know why they didn’t dig.
Anonymous
That is a lot of sick leave. He probably didn’t want detectives to know the he was possibly in his forestry location perhaps concealing evidence.
London
The person who says “prove it” is obviously Jule or Jules or whatever. I don’t care to remember his name. The person who replied that no one really escapes justice is right. What he doesn’t understand that if he served his time now, he’d get another chance. I only think it’s sad that he really thinks he’s gotten away with something. Dottie will get another chance and be so happy!
Elizabeth Thrift
Has there been any updates on this case?
Anonymous
Burials are hard to solve. Especially is you have a suspect that works forestry and knows exactly where to put something.
H.Y.W. Shay
This story just played on late night TV and when he was talking about their altercation involving her threatening to kill him with the scissors she was holding, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I used to live in Kansas and the Dottie I knew (through my stepfather) told me few stories about altercations in a previous marriage.
His account of that incident was nearly verbatim her words. She preferred to stay isolated in her place out in the country. Could be nothing more than coincidence but she certainly resembles her physically, their personality traits, etc. ♀️
Anonymous
Amber Heard also looks like her. Unfortunately many ladies suffer from similar and uncanny altercations.
I didn't need to use the phone anyway.
He said at the end of the episode that He’s happy without her and his life was good in Utah and She put him through hell and that was all behind him now. That sounds suspicious too. I know him just saying things isn’t enough to get him arrested, but I think the police need to dig up that yard at the house they lived in at the time of her disappearance! That’s probably where they is at. I don’t believe she ever left that house! I don’t believe they had a basement either. Maybe The police should also check the crawl space too. If he ever is on his deathbed maybe he’ll do the right thing and confess and tell where she is at, so the family can finally have some closure.
Anonymous
If he still owned the house, she would probably be somewhere there. But evidence will relocate when a suspect relocates. He did keep going back to work than to the train station. Almost in circles. She is probably somewhere in the forestry wilderness where he worked.
Zina
I totally agree , he spoke about her in the past that was very suspicious I think he just got away with the murder
Chardonnay Knox
https://charleyproject.org/case/dorothy-may-caylor Read this and tell me that you still do not think Jule did this for a fact. specifically the letter to his coworker.
Gina
Dottie does seem like she was a very unlikeable woman in her own right.
T
She might have been, but she is the one that is missing. There are plenty of things about Jule that are just creepy and suspicious. It that not enough? I think there is overwhelming evidence that he killed her. Disappearing and leaving her family and friends, and never contacting them? Yes, some people do that, but he was was going to leave in 2 weeks. Jule, by his own words, cared about money. He didn’t want her to keep the house, and she wouldn’t sign for him to get the new house in Utah. It was the last straw for him. He mentioned to numerous people that he could get away with murder. Also, his actions on the day she disappeared makes no sense. I think him bringing her car back to the train station beside his, and putting her purse in it, doesn’t make sense. There is no way she left her purse behind. I wish they had dug up the patio. It makes no sense for him to build a patio for a house that he is moving out of. No one puts money into a rental that they don’t need to. She made a mistake marrying him, it’s not in this article but he was married when she met him. He didn’t know that and that he had a daughter. He also told her he wanted to kill his first wife.
Jackie
Why didn’t they dig up the patio? My boyfriend pointed this out and I think it needs to be dug up. It’s highly probable she is under there. Especially considering the finding of the meat clever by the neighbors.
Ellie
I used to live across the street from Jule and Dottie. So I know for a fact that Dottie was very likable. I was a young married woman with a baby. While our husbands were working, I remember when Dottie would take my baby and I to a park nearby in her little Volkswagen bug.
I remember when Jules daughter would visit and Dottie would entertain her.
One day my husband suddenly left me and it was Dottie who offered me help.
Back then, I always felt Jule was creepy…yet my ex husband seemed to enjoy chats with him.
I moved in 1976..
Anonymous
I wish she was more like Anne Maddison Bradley. Jule later became a politician in Utah.
Lynzie
Okay, so because YOU believe she was “unlikable” it’s OK for her to be murdered??? Also, where did you find the information out that she was that type of person?
I agree that the evidence is too circumstantial for a death penalty conviction (may not have been if they scraped the painted walls, dug up the patio, and checked the axe for blood), however the case needed to be investigated further (see above) and put before a jury. There is A LOT of evidence pointing right towards him….
Just re-watch the episode and tell me the words, body language, and “empty” expression aren’t enough to go, ” Yeah he did it!” I knew NOTHING of this case and I “jumped to that conclusion.” I received my degree in Criminal Justice and worked for state law enforcement for years; after his first comment I thought, “He did it!” Again, more investigating needs to be done, hence the reason we have a separation between investigation and the court room, but I feel the the only reason they haven’t tried him is because they haven’t found the proverbial “smoking gun.” On a personal note…I hope you’re never my neighbor Gina, because it seems as if anyone disagreeable to you is ok to murder …
Andrew Stull
This case also reminds me of a friend whose mother did not have a drivers license and just stayed home all day and took care of the house. Their marriage (according to my friend) was good and happy. When the two boys were in their early 20s their mother secretly started seeing someone and up and left the family with her new man and they have not seen her since. The only difference is that she would call her sons occasionally.
Anonymous
Some men are just impossible to please. Many men want their ladies as stay at home wives. But then they will complain and have them in trouble for listening to them.
Andrew Stull
Sometimes those that seem guilty really are not. The husband does not seem to care much for Dottie but that does not make him guilty. A previous comment was made that just a few weeks ago Jule is filing paperwork with the county where they lived to declare her dead so he can sell their old home. Over 35 years later I think that should say at least something. It would be more suspicious if the tried to do that a few months after her disappearance. This case is bizarre.
Anonymous
I didn’t know that he still owned the home. To own a home after 35 years of not living in it is very suspicious. She could be concealed on that property.
Anonymous
I’ve watched a lot of who done its. This is the first case I’ve seen where a person admitted to moving cars around. Those are important clues. And he admitted to moving both his car and the Volkswagen. Yet he pretended to be shocked that they where there. I have my rules because of other similar cases. (If you see one case you have seen them all.) Usually the people who move cars around to throw off police are responsible for a disappearance.
Lynzie
It makes sense to move the car around…Most likely, everyone knew that was Dottie’s Bug and had never seen him driving it. Therefore if the police spoke with neighbors, friends, family they would most likely say he NEVER drove it. So if he “moved it to avoid tickets” it would explain his prints on the steering wheel, on the driver’s side handle,etc. Also, it’s a little boastful, as if he’s saying, “I’m smarter than the police” and ” I have control of your life and car” *last directed to Dottie* He said he drove her to the BART…well MANY people call vehicles “her” (myself included).
Anonymous
Not if he dropped her off. If you rewatch the segment, she should have been on foot only.
Anonymous
Why would a guy that just broke up with someone be shocked at seeing their car away from his house?
Anonymous
According to the Charley Project “Jule claimed that he left a note for his wife on her vehicle, hid her purse under the seat, locked the doors, and moved the car so she would not receive a parking ticket. He told investigators that the Beetle remained in its spot on June 14 and he moved the car again.” (I have never seen a person of interest admit to moving evidence around like that.)
C Dawkins
Why did it take so long for the police to name the husband as a person of interest, when most of the time the person last seen with a missing person, as well as the husband of a missing woman, is the person who killed them?
Anonymous
I’m glad we can legally call him a “person of interest.” I feel so sorry for Dottie and what she had to put up with. Women were still coming into the spotlight back then. Just across the bay, Candice DeLong was just starting her career. She taught me all about sociopaths. Those people will hurt you. Then act nice and lie to take advantage of you. They didn’t have funding for mental health back then like they do today.
Hang on to your Ego
Jule looks like Webb Pierce.
Kenna
The way the husband was so blase at the end of the episode saying Dottie made his life hell and how things are pretty good without her is very telling.
Stephanie Villa
I sure hope the Police follow up on this, It is clear that he is guilty. Justice needs to be served. There are too many holes in his story. How could the Police believe his story? I’m completely shocked by this case, very disturbing! You can see the guilt in his eyes and hear it in his voice. Arrest him! Check the house out! interrogate him!
L Dean
So, interestingly enough, Dottie’s husband has filed a “petition to establish fact of death for a joint tenant” on January 7, 2019 against Dottie’s estate in Contra Costa County Superior Court.
http://www.cc-courts.org/civil/TR/Department%2014%20-%20Judge%20Sugiyama%20(Probate)/14_031919.pdf
Case #MSP04-00560
I have not been able to figure out of the petition was approved. I believe Jule might be doing this so he can sell the house. I just found this today, and have not had a chance to delve further. I do believe Jule has knowledge of Dottie’s death at the very least, even if he’s not directly responsible for her demise.
Cris
Regardless if a person has personal knowledge of the demise of another individual or not, in most States, if someone has been unaccounted for and out of contact, unable to be found or whereabouts unknown/missing for more than 7 years (may vary depending on conditions of the State/Province) that individual can be lawfully declared “dead” for purpose of liquidation of their estate and holdings by the next of kin/spouse/family/associates by order of a court. Doesn’t mean the husband actually KNOWS anything. It just means he can legally move on with his life and sell whatever mutual property that isn’t covered under “abandoned property” laws. Without a confession, a body or witnesses, we may never know what happens to Dotty. Jule has been investigated and even warrants have been served over the years with nothing to show for it. It’s just as likely Dotty walked away and has made a life for herself under another name somewhere else. Back then it was rather easy to do.
Jewel
Yes PD is a joke! Very obvious who dunnit
Bob the cop
You armchair detectives make me laugh. If you’re so good at police work and have all the answers why don’t you go to a police academy and become the best cop this country has ever seen!
JD the lawyer
Actually, some of those armchair detectives have helped solve active and cold cases in recent years. Based on my experience, many local law enforcement officers are uneducated and incompetent.
Lynzie
Not necessarily incompetent or undereducated….swamped with a huge caseload, underpaid, and a “this case has been unsolved for this long, who cares” attitude can also be attributed to why this remains untried…My hope is that they’re waiting on test results that will show that Jule is guilty (but I may just be a dreamer).
Bob
That must be you, Jule, hello.
Kayla L
Why was her car at the train station if he dropped her off? He also stated she had her purse with her when he left her. Jule is guilty and you can see it on his face. He has totally disconnected himself from it, no emotion what so ever and even stated after he moved and started a new job that he was “happy it’s over” . . . GUILTY.
Anonymous
I don’t know. Jule admitted to being at the train station while both cars where there. He even left notes complaining to her. (Like she was supposed to look forward to returning to that.) It doesn’t add up. Why would anyone drive to the Metro in Oakland is beyond my comprehension. (The train covers most of the city.) Most women when they run away don’t tell their men anything. They just pull a fast one. The fact that they where all cool and such, I don’t know. It was an unusual relationship. No matter what she did she was in trouble regardless.
Captain Obvious
But seriously to sum it all up, the husband clearly did it. No question about it!
Anonymous
It sure does look like it. But it is Oakland. Oakland is so bad they can’t even respond to all 911 calls. Unless their is a dead body, it could take all day to respond.
Jenn
The interview alone is shocking to me! He shows no emotion, nothing! ” that problem is behind him” ! Wow!!!!
Anonymous
How many times did he cuss talking about her? I counted at least 3. (I wasn’t very analytical. He lost me with abstract fiction.)
Do it for Dottie
I’ve noticed at least 2 comments of people stating they may personally know Dottie. Have there been any further updates? How often are stories on this site updated? Also, why aren’t more people calling the police dept and asking them what the legal hold up is? Isn’t this interview alone enough for a search warrant? Smh
Bill Blaski
This man is 80yrs old and lives in West Jordan UT. I wonder if they were to search the house in Concord what would they find? Does he still own the CA house? I would loveto see the basement dug upor the yard Prayers to her family.
Anonymous
She could be there. She also could be anywhere where Jule worked. He worked forestry and knew the woods inside out. (I’m hoping he attempts to relocate the evidence.)
Operation Plumbob
– Jule was married when he started seeing Dottie.
– They fought over money. He hit her with a board over a missing checkbook. Neighbors heard the fight and called the cops. She stayed in a battered women’s shelter because of it, after being released from the hospital.
– He was gone for half their marriage.
– He secretly was seeing at least one woman. Dottie had evidence in a safe of other affairs.
– Dottie was secretly attending support groups for women.
– Two weeks before Dottie disappeared Jule proposed marriage to another woman.
– After Dottie’s disappearance Jule told his fiancee he’d gone through “Herculean” efforts to be with her and that he would do anything for her, even kill. The combo of his wife’s disappearance and those words led to the woman breaking off the engagement permanently.
– Jule’s story about dropping Dottie off is very suspect and full of holes.
– Jule had access to locations where a body could be dumped and never found.
– Jule shows textbook narcissistic personality disorder, blatantly exhibiting 7 of the 9 symptoms.
– He was very proud that his previous life was “behind him” and has shown extreme anger whenever this disappearance comes back to haunt him.
Dude’s guilty AF. If he didn’t kill her himself, he hired someone to do it so he could be free of her.
Ash Paladium
Lazy cops need to put the maple bars down and do.sime real police work. Talk about piss poor detective work. There is DNA now. Why haven’t they tried to locate his old car or her car and test it or test the old house they lived at? I bet my nutsack that he snapped and killed her. Threw her in the trunk and buried her up at Mt Diablo or something. Not a stretch. It’s Concord. Where else would he do it? Winchell’s inst a stretch either. Worthless cops. Typical. Too busy making money pulling people one for bull like looking at your IPOD. Gay.
Anonymous
Oakland had a good police chef. I believe Anne Kirkpatrick would have solved this case had she not been wrongfully terminated. Many cold cases were solved under her leadership. She cracked down on all crime. Unfortunately some of those crimes included other police officers and she was terminated for whistle blowing.
Alina Dawson
Dottie got a ride to the station from her husband, why was the fact her vehicle showed up right next to his not investigated further? Why and how would her vehicle mysteriously appear? This discrepancy is the key to her disappearance.
Anonymous
David Berkowitz was caught over parking tickets. That actual date and time would have been hard to dispute. If it was ticketed they would have investigated. But Jule moved the car around so many times, any evidence left by a third party would have been contaminated.
Anonymous
Loved that Jule dude, no way he did it or he would have done more to pose for the cameras. The woman he was married to was obviously a nag and a hag and he made no bones about wanting to get the hell away from her. Reminds me of that Hugh dude that they did a feature on, the guy whose wife disappeared with him disappearing years later as well, the witch served the guy dog food for dinner. Women are not the only sex that are sometimes saddled with having to deal with a wretched husband/boyfriend, it can happen in reverse and all the power in the world to men who separate themselves from hag bags, leave them before evil thoughts start to enter your head, their faces will never look less witch-like and they ain’t going to lose any weight.
Tenarife
This was on UM today. I kept wondering how was Dottie paying all the bills when her husband was gone for so much of the marriage because it was said she rarely left the house and didn’t work? I assume he was sending her money even though he wasn’t around. I was curious why he didn’t leave her much sooner if he split anyway. I think it’s mostly because there are some men that love needy and whiny women who can’t take care of themselves and they have to depend totally on their husbands. My cousin and his wife are that way.
Something else I wondered about if she wanted a divorce because she didn’t want to relocate with Jule, was he going to continue to support her because they never mentioned her getting a job? I did wonder if she wouldn’t do like many women you see on Judge Judy and claim she has social phobia and other mental issues to get SSI benefits, so she wouldn’t have to get a job or another man to support her.
Tenarife
After reading through the comments I kind of agree with you that if the situation was reverse everyone would be saying it was so great she finally got the motivation to leave him. If it was the husband who didn’t work, saying he had a mental illness and she was having to support both of them, then he once came after her with scissors so she had to defend herself. People would be saying she should’ve left that lazy, psycho bum years ago, and how they can’t believe she supported him all of those years. He should’ve gotten therapy, went on medication and gotten a job. I do believe people’s reaction would be different.
Postergeist
Hi, Jule
Anonymous
“Jule moved to Utah, where he planned to start a new life with a woman he’d proposed to six months before Dottie disappeared. The relationship dissolved when the woman learned about Dottie.”
I do not believe for one second especially after watching Jule’s interview that he was leaving love notes on her car that mysteriously was parked there after he had “dropped” her off. He was engaged to be married leaving love notes on the women’s car he hated? Give me a break and someone get this guy!!
Tyrone
It was the husband!!! Look at his beady eyes!!! You could hear the joy and smile on his face when he describe Dotty walking around the corner of the station and disappearing… finally how happy he is to leave her and the memory of it all behind… why did he wait so long to call authorities? Why does he have such beady little eyes? And why are his eyes so close together? Straight up solved this within a minute of seeing the husband… why was he engaged to another woman… I mean Christ the cops in that area musta been the dumbest bunch of Andy Griffith goners on earth
Aileen Rosario
Your commentary is exactly what I was thinking when watching Dottie’s story! The husband is so guilty, he doesnt even want to hide it! The police department in this area basically let him get away with murder *sigh*
Janet
Im rolling on the floor at the beady eyes
Person
there is a woman named Dottie Kaylor that lives by me.
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Smellybelly
This poor woman. Everyone failed her. How could they let this guy get away with her murder! Its so painfully clear he killed her. At the end of the show he talks about how his life is so good now that this problem is behind him.
secretlyme
I think that the authorities are being very lenient on Dottie’s husband. Whatever he says about how he dropped Dottie at the station, and then how he found Dottie’s car at the train station two days later is awkward. First, if Dottie came back home to pick up her car to drive back on the train, her husband could have seen her. How did hfe open the car door? Did he have the keys to it? Did he take her purse to the authorities? Did the police searched her car to find clues? How come f all of a sudden she decided to ride the train by herself? This is in inconclusive. Dottie’s husband needs to be investigated further and arrested until evidence of his innocence is found.
Crowe
Not having the entire case file it is hard to make a decision or rendering as to the events that transpired. However the limited knowledge that I have, I would state that the following is what happened to her. The husband omits that he was violent towards her even though he tries to put himself as the victim . This is a very common occurrence in domestic violence cases . I believe that the husband killed her possibly by accident in an altercation and dispose of the body. The reason for this is It is obvious that both parties , however intelligent , had significant issues mentally. The husband that I see as suffering from rage issues killed her and one of these domestic altercations and disposed of her body . Probably at one of the locations that he worked as an entomologist. Having a intimate knowledge of isolated locations it would’ve made it easy for him to transport her body to one of the sites and dispose of it . I also believe that it was very hard for the police at the time to get a reading on his emotions and reactions because of psychological issues that he had . If she Agoura phobia then I do not think that she would’ve been attending the classes that she was or own the car that she did . Great doubts about how severe her mental issues work. But as a psychologist I have a Concern of his. The police may have been able to get a confession from him if they had arrested him and brought him down to interrogation hostilely And let him see a female skeleton as they took him to interrogation . That ruse might have worked but I think it is too late now and the chances of finding her body after all this time and in the remote locations that he worked will be hard .
Mel
This guy obviously murdered his wife. Why is no one checking him out. He basically got away and even said he is enjoying his life in his new home. How could the family and police not suspect him?
Katherine
I hope she really did pull herself together and move on with her life, but her husband is so suspicious he reeks of it. He is most definitely not a good man.
Joe
I too think he killed her. If this crime happened today there would be enough video sureveilance and other digital footprints to blow this guys story apart. Back in the 80’s I think you really needed a confession or to catch someone red handed to arrest and convict.
james
how did her car get to the train station if he drove her? I think the husband did something with her since she planned not to go with him to Salt Lake City. He didn’t want to have to worry with her so he could start a new life. It’s almost common since. He is the one that made her disappear!
Noname
I met a woman around 88 her name was Dottie. A name I’ve never heard before. She had problems as well. I see some resemblance. I was around 12 years old. I don’t want to say anymore on this public venue personal reasons. But I saw your show and I can’t help feel that could of been the same Dottie.
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Tenarife
I assume nothing came of this because this episode was on today and there were no updates that she had been found, dead or alive.
LUIS FREEH
THE FIRST FIGHT! THAT WAS AN INDICATION THAT THAT WASN’T DOTTIE WHO HE CAME HOME TO! MORE… MORE… MORE… YEAH! “I” THINK IT’S TIME FOOR A JOB TRANSFER! GOOD RIDDIN’S TO THAT! TRANSITION GROUP! AND LEAVING HER OLD CAR TO BUY A “NEW ONE” (TRANSITIONING GOOD) “U” IN TROUBLE. SERIOUS TROUBLE!
R
How is he not in jail? Probably because he got away with her murder. The only other explanation is she is so terrified of him, she is in hiding. I wish her family would push for his arrest, although like others mentioned- he got away with the perfect crime, he had access to places and equipment to make her body disappear. And her car being there when he dropped her off, WTH? I hope wherever she is, she is at peace.
Eric W Bohannon
she is forsds to be a sexual victim, becase the woman, has a had a vesectame or had a sex change, something strange, the cream colord house has a rounded courner for stairs, right now I see, black, round stairs, big/wide and also, the stairs that have crem colored carpit, in the rounded corneer,, they are secret Satinic worshippers.she is a Judge. the kidd napper. please forward to the fbi out of the area
Eric W Bohannon
I get she does not want to be found, and I see her siting on the steps and smoking a ciggirt, and is ok. I get when The Lord God had me specking healing from heaven, she was healed, it was sort of, revenge. she has a right to do so. I get in the after noon, when there are less people around, she might go out, her family, she was vilated by her dad, and a lot of screaming and balming her, for her dis order, even if she is sinning, sleeping with a lover, God says, she is like many, open and cosinat forgivness,
HeDidIt
If you watch the show & his interview at the end where he says:
“It was Hell living with Dottie. It was Hell having her disappear the way that she did. And yet, once I got here & got into a new job, That Whole Problem Is Behind Me” (THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS BEHIND ME???????)
He said all that with the most callous look and tone & no sadness whatsoever. He got away with her murder & the cold case should be re-investigated with HIM as the PRIME SUSPECT
Bonnie Wood
Absolutely. I hope they’re following up. That guy is scary creepy.
Anonymous
Yeah I don’t think she would of took off without knowing where she was going. She didn’t have a plan or anything. But the husband made it sound all grandiose like she was very happy about breaking up. He was very shocked she disappeared, but at the start of his interview he was happy for her. Even helped her.
Absentminded Professor
I’m an agoraphobe and only speaking for myself… there is no way in hell she went into a train station, bought a ticket (ALONE), boarded a train (ALONE) and started a life with no family or friends (ALONE). He probably got tired of dealing with someone with a mental illness, killed her and dumped her body in the mine he had a claim to. If he had access to any kind of explosives I doubt there is much of her left there.
Tenarife
I have social phobia also and I need a “sip” (alcohol) to get courageous enough to be around large crowds of people. I think he got tired of not only her mental illness but having to support her too, but I’m not sure if he killed her. I was thinking something that someone else had said: that he paid someone else to do it. That wouldn’t surprise me.
anonymous
Dear People; I saw the rough sketch of the proposed burial site which was in the note
sent from (Alabama?) Go ask any real estate broker about a builder who put a gable
on top of the garage roof. Now at least you would know which subdivision the body
might be buried in.
James c Thornton
First of all how did he know that she purchased a ticket when he claimed that he last saw her entering the station and disappeared. I find it very hard that she would leave all her belongings and not tell him where she was going. Was the ticket ever recovered from the train station. Did she pay for the ticket with cash or credit card. We know domestic violence was a factor so he would have been upset about her new life.was the overnight bag ever recovered and was anything missing from her purse.knowing that he was upset about her new life why leave love notes on her car. How did the car get there when he dropped her off.why did it take so long to report her missing and why didn’t he look for her.since it was a living hell being with her he felt better two weeks later after moving away with no reward offered or any follow up with the police department. I have a very strong belief that he buried her in the back yard or somewhere close and staged the missing person angle.was the purse ever fingerprinted
ConcordResi
You’re an idiot. Please turn your brain on.
D.
I think he is responsible for her disappearance. I wonder if police searched that area Jule owned up in Concord, CA? Here is a link to a mining claim he had at the time of her disappearance. http://thediggings.com/mines/camc75600
Z
Dottie could have staged her own disappearance, and framed her hubby in the process. If she was not agoraphobic, so much as depressed bc of the marriage and she really wanted it badly enough. Either way, he’s an idiot – for being a horrible liar and not thinking it through or for falling right for it. It’s a wonder he’s not sitting in prison.
Anonymous
He admitted to helping her disappear. It was one of the few times he didn’t cuss about her.
Anon
Her husband killed her. Why did she have a secret bank account if she wasn’t scared of him? Why would she run away and not tell friends and family where she was going? Why would she run away from her home leaving family an friends if he was leaving in two weeks for another job in another city and he said he did not expect her to have gone with him? So she would have been free of him so why would she leave her home? Is there a witness that saw her at the train station? Do they know it was definitely her who bought the ticket? Why would he leave love notes on her car when by his own admission he was leaving her to go to a new job? Definitely the husband had something to do with it but there isn’t enough evidence against him in my opionion.
Anonymous
Those where not exactly love notes. He was complaining that chores were not done. That misogynistic cooking and cleaning for the privilege of more insults.
richard harris
Husband worked for the Forestry Service. He would have known dozens of places to dispose of a body. He might even have had weekend access to a wood chipper.
Anonymous
Those are hard to find. A construction worker, you can just look at past projects. They need ground penetrating radars around her residence and the forests.
richard harris
He killed her. If she was alive there is no way that she would have allowed the $5,000 certified cheque to expire.
Rebecca
Jule dropped her off at the train station, but never waited to see if she boarded the train. Why not? Dottie suffered from agoraphobia, but she left town abruptly and on her own. Hmm. Why was Dottie car at the train station if he dropped her off as he claimed, he said he put notes on her car what for? To show the police he love his wife or to cover himself. His story does not add up. He knows exactly what happened to his wife. No one knows that he actually dropped her off at the train station, no one saw, no one was aware she was leaving town. She did not have her purse with her that is something you don’t leave behind.
anonymous
I am sure the husband is the murderer. I am truly hundred percent sure. Why dint the police check up on him. He seems like a terrible liar
Bonnie Wood
He totally killed her. They need to get a cadaver dog on that property!
Matthew
she could have left because of her husband. why would she leave her home if she was terrified and then board a train and leave? She might be far away in Washington
Thomas
could have left because of the stress. Could be anywhere
Lisa
I don’t understand why her car was at the train station if he dropped her off. Either I missed something or he’s a terrible liar.
Brittlyn
I dont understand that either, thats so weird. I wonder if its a possibility that she left, came back at some point, someone might have picked her up and they drove back together and got on the train and left? But the fact that her purse is still in the car isn’t right….
john jones
Excellent point.
Tammy Thomas
Nobody saw Dottie at the train station. I think he (Jule) killed her. She wouldn’t have left her purse. He claims he is happy without her but he left love notes on her car- for whose benefit? It just doesn’t add up.
Anonymous
She may have been an alleged agoraphobic. But I think Jule shows symptoms of being a sociopath. Just thinking of what she had to possibly deal with kind of frightens me.