Is a cache of looted gold and silver worth millions buried in Arizona’s Skeleton Canyon?

It began with an ambush …

Gunmen shot every one of the smugglers

CASE DETAILS

Along Arizona’s eastern border is a jagged ravine called Skeleton Canyon. More than a 100 years ago, a gang of Mexican smugglers were ambushed and robbed within its steep, canyon walls. Some say the take from that robbery was buried in this area, an undiscovered treasure worth millions.

A treasure supposedly worth millions

Treasure hunters have searched for years in Skeleton Canyon. They’ve turned up bleached bones and old Mexican coins, but no treasure. Is the treasure real? It depends on who you ask. Treasure hunter Fern Hamill said he has no doubts:

“It’s a known fact that it’s a real treasure. This is one of the treasures that’s absolutely ‘real’ real.”

But Robert Palmquist, an Arizona Historian, has voiced a different view:

“No, I don’t believe that there is a Skeleton Canyon treasure waiting out there to be found.” 

The legend of the Skeleton Canyon treasure starts in a small Mexican village. Jim Hughes, a member of Arizona’s infamous Curly Bill Brocious Gang, learned that Mexican bandits had looted the town of Monterey, Mexico. They were planning to smuggle the fortune into the United States through Skeleton Canyon.

Skeleton Canyon … scene of the crime

Hunter Pritchard, director of a treasure hunting museum, speculated on the booty’s worth:

“The reports that I read, in the myriad of books and treasure magazines as far back as 1964, reported the treasure to be worth anywhere from 2.5 million dollars all the way, and I’ve seen reports of it being worth up to 8 million dollars.”

According to Hunter, Hughes rode back to Arizona and made plans with Curley Bill Brocius to ambush the Mexican gang:

“The Estrada gang had come out of Mexico, through Sonora, and were going through, what was later to become known as Skeleton Canyon. The outlaws shot the Mexicans off their mounts, and that resulted in the contraband being scattered all over the canyon.  And in order to stop the mules from scatterin and taking the loot with them, the Curly Bill Brocius gang were shooting the mules.”

Modern treasure hunters use choppers

The outlaws now had their treasure, but without mules, they had no way of moving it out of the canyon. So part of the loot was divided up on the spot. The rest was buried, to be picked up later. But two members of the gang had other plans, according to Hunter Pritchard:

“Zwing Hunt and Billy Grounds were friends and they decided that while the rest of the gang was out in the local bars spending their money, they would double-cross the gang and come back into the canyon. According to legend, they were able to find a Mexican teamster, talked him into bringing his team and his horses into Skeleton Canyon and removing the treasure, and, of course, he was later killed because they wanted to keep the new hiding places a secret. It’s very likely that the treasure is still buried within the vicinity of Skeleton Canyon, probably no more than thirty miles away.”

Zwing Hunt and Billy Grounds hid in a desert cave where they lived for close to four months. During this period, Billy Grounds wrote a number of letters to his sister, Maggie, in San Antonio. Billy wanted her to know where the treasure was hidden in case anything happened to him. Billy would venture out once a week to give the letters to a passing stagecoach. Treasure hunter Fern Hamill claims he’s seen the nine letters:

“One of the letters he was writing to his sister, he said there’s a cave at the mouth of the canyon.  I found that cave, and it goes back 80 feet and we even dug in the cave and found old ropes that were buried in there. And one of the things in the letter, it said, from our lookout you can see the turf growing back over where we buried the treasure at, down in the valley. I have found all the clues in the letters, every one of them.  When I once found the right place to look, why everything fit, and everything is there, so I know the treasure is, I’m near where it’s at. It’s there.”

Historian Robert Palmquist doubts the letters were legitimate:

“Billy Grounds, who was supposed to have written the letters, was a 19-year old Texas cowboy rustler type. It’s unlikely to me that he would have been writing home detailed letters about ‘Hey, we robbed these Mexicans and buried this huge treasure.  Here’s how to find it.’”

But Fern said he found evidence in the cave that proves the letters are real:

“Maggie was Billy Grounds’ sister, and she and a man had spent two years living in a cave out there, looking for this treasure. And we found this vase in a cave, it says ‘Maggie’ on it, ‘1885, World’s Fair.’ So I know that was Billy Grounds’ sister that was there looking for this treasure.”

A Sheriff’s posse finally cornered Billy Grounds and Zwing Hunt. During the shootout, Billy was killed and Zwing was seriously injured. As the story goes, after his capture, Zwing revealed the secret location of the treasure to his uncle. His uncle then drew up a detailed map.

Robert Palmquist doesn’t buy it:

“It seems to me that it’s another typical treasure hunting yarn. We never get to see the map, we never get to examine it for its genuineness or see if it matches up with any handwriting samples we might have.”

Fern Hamill said that he’s seen the map that was made by Zwing Hunt’s uncle:

“The map shows the canyon and it shows where the cave is, everything matches. But on account of the earthquake in 1886, I think the treasure is around twenty feet deep. Part of the mountain caved off on it.”

Is there really a treasure buried in Skeleton Canyon? Or is it just another tall tale from the days of the Old West?

According to Hunter Pritchard, the story is at least plausible:

“I think the Skeleton Canyon treasure is a very plausible story from the standpoint that every time it would rain somebody’s skull would show up or another coin would become evident.  And compared to a lot of other stories, it’s got a lot more plausibility than, I would say, the Lost Dutchman Mine, for instance.”

Historian Robert Palmquist has voiced his doubts:

“It is possible that there’s a Skeleton Canyon treasure out there to be found somewhere.  But the initial report given in the local press indicates  that there was a very small amount of money taken, which would have been spent very, very quickly. I don’t think there was a treasure, given historical sources, to find.”

As for Fern Hamill:

“When I find the treasure I’ll stop looking for it. Because I know it’s real. This treasure is real and I know I found the right place, where it’s at.”


Watch this case now on Amazon Prime in season three with Robert Stack and in season two with Dennis Farina. Also available on YouTube with Dennis Farina. Various seasons available now on Hulu.

 

38 Comments

  1. Jame

    Hey Bob and Sam, hopefully you still watch this thread. Have you been out there recently? I’m curious if you know if this closer to the New Mexico or Arizona border. Any info is much appreciated.

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  2. Wyatt

    Hey Bob and Sam, hopefully you still watch this thread. Have you been out there recently? I’m curious if you know if this closer to the New Mexico or Arizona border. Any info is much appreciated.

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  3. Doyle

    If someone found the gold and silver I’m sure they would remain anonymous in order to gain any wealth from the find.. 1) It’s stolen – it would be quickly confiscated by the FBI. 2) It’s on Federal land, and belongs the federal government. 3) There would be a tremendous amount of tax you would have to pay. .4) Our government would find some way, some how to take the gold and silver away from you.

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  4. Anonymous

    When we found him, he was dehydrated and I’m not sure how true his rambling story was, but this is what I remember most. He was talking about finding a small cave in a creek bed in Pine canyon, made it seem like it was lived in by the illegal who found it years ago, apparently the guy was forced to stay in the cave for awhile because he was sick. In this little cave there is supposed to be a small table, chair, and little bed. But what thru me most is when he said he was being chased by Indians who he said live in the area. His story was a bit bizarre, but I’ve heard all kinds of stories about the Skeleton canyon area, I’m just glad he wasn’t hurt.

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  5. Anonymous

    Kit, nice work saving that lost hiker, I know that terrain is pretty rough this time of year. Did he happen to talk about the written directions or where in Pine canyon he was looking? I’m curious to know what was said in the written directions, I’ve heard so many stories and am looking to piece it together.

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  6. Anonymous

    Marc, I’ve made 17 trips over about 25 years 1,000 miles one way. You should check out the
    Pioneer’s Library in Tucson. They also have a treasure map to the Lost Skeleton Canyon Treasure, that describes the treasure. I.E, the 2,974.5 kilos of smelted but unrefined gold bullion. Sam

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  7. Anonymous

    The treasure is 2,974.5 kilos of smelted but unrefined gold bullion. 90 bars @ 33.05 kilos ea.
    Sam Peppiatt

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  8. juan from tucson

    Please be careful in this area. Rattlesnakes are not the danger, drug smugglers are.
    Great stories here in southern az about lost treasure. Iron door mine, Huachuca canyon lost treasure, etc.
    Makes for an exciting vacation hunting treasure, but the dangers are from south of the border.

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  9. Kelly Brown

    Well I think the problem is perceiving that the information available literal. the story has been regurgitated retold so many times there is no telling what all is fact and what all this fiction. they probably lost far more of them than most people can imagine due to the mules running off.as far as Billy grounds and Swing Hunt robbing the tombstone Milling Company does make one wonder as to WHY? None the less it’s and interesting story. Geronimo tells a very simular story with less exaggeration and fanfare so I would belive the event took place. I was recently taken to this area and did a survey. We did locate two 2’x2′ gold and silver signatures at 4′ deep approximately 1,000′ from the 10′ cascade or drop. But the conductive values were too low to be considered to be processed metals. But did have a fair division of a plus 20. Processed silver typically will give a +30 and gold a +40 so I called it a natural pocket because iron magnetite was associated with it. however while driving back home just happened to listen to The Autobiography of Geronimo describe the robbery in skeleton Canyon from his perspective and the understanding that the head of it. so that makes me feel the story is legitimate

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  10. Pedro

    My family and I used to take day trips into skeleton canyon when I was a kid. We’d take short hikes and picnic by Devils Kitchin. I remember cooking ribeyes over an open fire and enjoying the scenery. It’s a beautiful area, now that I’m older and know the history of the Chiricahua Indians I’d like to go back and hike it again, maybe even camp in the area.

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  11. SCApache

    This is interesting to know of this lost treasure. I took a drive to see the monument for the first time ever, and would have loved to see where Geronimo surrendered, if ranchers live there, wish they would open it up to those who would like to see the actual place. Looked from a distance from the monument, does look rough that way but with horses or four-wheels I am sure you can get there. And true on some the ghost stories about them being protected by apaches that have passed on.

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  12. Latoya Hubbard

    This old Wild West story is REAL ! I believe that the pioneers that hide the bars of gold are still in tacked right where they left it centurys ago. (Through) I will rely heavily upon my dreams to lead me there. Be more than fair to share with me 1 bar, as a gratitude for aid in this endeavor. Do not reveal to any race, or their may be trouble. Sir, and somebody has to tell me a Wild, Wild, West Story ! Respectfully yours, LaToya Hubbard

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  13. Chuck Ehyee

    My wife and I did some camping in cave creek over the weekend. We ended up at the Rodeo Tavern for a few drinks, couldn’t help but overhear a couple of guys taking about some hidden silver in the canyon. They had some maps drawn out and were looking for the easiest way into the area. It was exciting listening to them chat about the area and the hope of finding the silver. This sight has intrigued both my wife and I. We too will be in search of the silver!

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  14. Samuel

    So I just came back from week of searching. I contacted some locals and they gave me some insight on where to go. Lots of walking and I came across many of the landmarks that were shared in the directions and stories. There is a lot of trash left by UDAs so if you’re planning on going be careful and pack water. Unfortunately I came up empty handed.

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  15. Grandpa Hamill's oldest granddaughter

    Oh How I miss you Grandpa Hamill. I will keep my promise to you and will head out that way sometime in February. Thank you for handing me down the map and a very vivid location. I remember going out in that area with you when I was just a little girl and we found some old gold coins. I still have them locked up and safe plan on handing them down to my girls when they are old enough. Also found some real old glass bottles out in that area too. But in the last few years it really has changed out there and has gotten a lot worse to hike.

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  16. Kit

    I was out there looking for a missing person last month, sister hadn’t heard from her brother for a few days. Parked his car in Apache and left on foot, was looking for some Silver bricks hidden in a den somewhere in Pine Canyon. He ended up getting lost and dehydrated, says he’s going back as soon as he gets time off at work. He didn’t have a map, only written directions from a guy from Mexico who heard the story from an uncle who was lost crossing illegally years ago.

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  17. Douglas Resident

    Any one from the area actively hunting for this treasure? Where can I get a copy of said map and letter?

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  18. Bob

    Snakes are pretty bad right now, I recommend taking gators and snake repellant. As far as the road goes, the only way in is through gate-key access. It’s to dangerous to hike in that terrain right now, way to hot. Unless you have a good lead on the whereabouts of the treasure, take lots of water.

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  19. Sammy

    Thanks Bob. I think I might take a trip out there soon, just a little afraid of the rattle snakes. I’ve been across the road to Horseshoe before and had a close call. Can the public access devils kitchen?

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  20. Bob Vance

    Sam I’d recommend heading towards Devils Kitchen and work the creek beds, I found some coins back in that area. I found a few coins with LM labeled on them.

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  21. Solider of Fortune

    Great story on the Treasure of Skeleton Canyon, sounds like a fun adventure. Does anyone know the combination to the lock on the gate? Only way in seems to be on foot.

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  22. Anonymous

    large amount of gold was stolen to Jose maria Martinez from cinco minas mexico some coins maybe have the inscription LM or HCM

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  23. Sammy

    I heard they got some rain out there recently. I wonder it now would be a good time to take a metal detector and see what might come up. Anyone have thoughts on where to start?

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  24. Samuel

    Such history in S. AZ! I think it’s amazing that so many people are tied to knowing where the treasure “truly is” yet each story claims it’s in a different area. I guess that’s why people call it treasure hunting.

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  25. Desert Rat

    LOL yea its out there Kewl thing is I grew up in the area. Have a copy of the map and stop to laugh every time the story changed over the years. Seems some haven’t done much research before making up a new version. Nice that I got to speak to people who lived here in the 1800’s I do know where places are others cant even find I also know why they are called what they are much like Davis Mountain. I have personally seen found and know where 75% of the land marks are at. And yes I have a copy of the real hand drawn map and letter written not by the outlaws but by the lady who worked in the jail right before they were Hung to Mail home. This has been in the family for years and years, and match’s the real history recorded in courthouse’s. First you must know where they were Hung to know which way they went. None were hung in AZ. or Tombstone in fact they never set foot in Portal AZ or Tombstone HAHAHAHA. The east foothills of Rodeo NM was about as close as they got to Portal AZ in there final days.

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    • Bob clark

      I have a very very old hand-drawn map measures about an inch and a quarter wide by 2 1/2 inches tall it mentions Davis mountain and on the back it says March 14, 1852 from point marked square to point circle s to circle m at a compass crossing you will find the contints of this map. B.B.J. S+S If this fits with your information perhaps we could team up

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    • Kelly Brown

      Your post is a little confusing, Hung? who was Hung? the letters were hung? or a person was hung? Have you found the stone with the two crosses? I just recently have been introduced to this story by an old timer who has chased it for over 25 years. I didn’t really believe that it was true until I listened to an audio on Geronimo’s autobiography and Geronimo tells basically the same story but not as grandiose. I really don’t know much about this story but familiar with treachery and greed in human nature I would assume Zwing and Billy had divided up the main treasure at some point in time and each had their own personal cache apart from what may have still been from the mail loot. Nonetheless I think that it is possible the Zwing had his letters and maps telling about his personal cache so likewise with Billy. My old timer friend was focusing on the description of the springs. After him sharing what he has learned I am assuming there probably isn’t any large cache still out there. Given the story some of the loot was lost by the fleeing mules and then the gang members took what they could carry, then Zwing & Billy carted off what was left to bury, Then at sometime Zwing and Billy reburied their own personal cache.

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  26. Rick

    If it is out there and you find it, then what? Who can cash it in?

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  27. Treasure hunter

    Has anyone truly gone out there? How did you gain access?

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  28. Wyatt

    It’s still out there

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  29. Cicada

    Due to American gringo greed I must stay ananymous … my grandfather knows where’s this treasure although their not silver coins but silver chunks more like pieces of silver worth millions.. Around 8 tons

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  30. Glen S. Steelman

    My partner and I have made many trips to Skeleton Canyon area and have read all the stories about the so called treasure. I personally don’t think if there is a treasure it’s not in
    Skeleton Canyon it’s north 45 miles around Portal AZ. Read the history about the area and Galeyville where the cowboys hung out. Then read the book ‘Coor’s and Jack. Over the hill my a*#… There is a lot of fiction but some truths too…

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  31. NIck meyer

    i’d love to like find the gold and put it in a museum

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  32. Marc F.

    What is the longest that someone has been out there looking for this treasure? Outside of this worth being a lot of money this is another piece of Wild West history and even more linked to the lore of Tombstone due to some of the character’s involved. I love reading anything I can find on Tombstone and have been there a few times. I would love to be able to go back in time to 1880’s Southeast Arizona and be apart of that time in America West history….Do you have anything else that I can read?

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  33. Brian Massey

    If there is something left out there in Skeleton Canyon it has probably been moved around by water run off flooding the valleys whenever it rains. The elements of nature and earthquakes will move it around and destroy its contents but I think it has either been found by now or relocated by all the elements out there.

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  34. John Forrey

    If Zwing and Billy had a fortune buried in Skeleton Canyon, why were they robbing the Tombstone Mining and Milling Company???

    It doesn’t add up.

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  • Respond to your emails or online requests for products, services, or information
  • Deliver and process surveys
  • Personalize and improve the usability of the Sites
  • Fulfill and/or deliver CMP products and services
  • Tailor content, advertising and marketing to you
  • We do not publish or aggregate credit card information or personal identification numbers such as social security numbers.


Non-Personal Data


We use Non-Personal Data to improve the usability of our Sites and for other business reasons. We or other third-party companies also use the Non-Personal Data to provide advertisements and targeted advertisements to you (ads based on the Non-Personal Data). We do not provide Personal Data to third parties with whom we share your Non-Personal Data. Please note that, when you select an advertising link or other link that takes you to sites not operated by CMP, you may be subject to the privacy policies of these third-party sites.

PERSONAL DATA COLLECTED FROM THE UNSOLVED APPLICATION

We may also obtain demographic and other personally identifiable information (such as your name, email address, password and PIN) that you voluntarily give to us when choosing to participate in various activities related to the Unsolved Application, including chat, posting messages in comment sections or in our forums, liking posts, sending feedback, and responding to surveys. 

 

If you do not turn off your phone’s location services, you may send us your geographic location.  If your camera roll is set to share, you may make your camera roll available to us.  If you have signed up to receive push notifications, you will receive those from the Unsolved Application.

 

HOW WE SHARE YOUR DATA

We share your Personal Data, sometimes combined with Non-Personal Data, in a variety of ways including, but not limited to the below:

  • Share data with third parties to fulfill service requests and to perform business functions (e.g., CMP contracts with third parties to provide services on our behalf such as customer support and consulting services; 
  • Share data with third parties as required by law or to protect CMP in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to legal requirements or comply with legal process served on the CMP; (b) protect and defend CMP’s rights or property; or (c) protect the personal safety of CMP personnel or members of the public in appropriate circumstances.
  • Share data with third parties if CMP and/or its assets (or a portion of its assets) are sold, assigned, transferred, or merged, or if CMP undergoes some other change including a change to its corporate form or as part of a bankruptcy proceeding. 
  • Share data with third parties to offer you products and services that may be of interest to you professionally or personally (e.g., apps or software).  Users can request their information to be removed from such lists by contacting us.
  • Share data with third parties under other unanticipated situations, but only with your consent.
  • Share your email address, but only as permitted by the CMP Email Policy, as follows:

Your email address will be used only by the CMP, its entities and CMP vendors performing member services, or offering products on CMP’s behalf.  CMP does not sell or rent email addresses to anyone outside the CMP, nor does CMP share email addresses to unrelated third-parties, affiliates, or CMP members.  CMP also shares your email address with third parties to enable CMP to take security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data.  Finally, CMP shares email addresses with third parties as necessary for CMP to perform certain services on our behalf, such as packaging, mailing and delivering products and processing event registrations and to respond to your service requests.

 

HOW YOU CAN MANAGE YOUR DATA WE COLLECT

You can manage your profile and email preferences, including “opting out” of email by contacting us. If you prefer to receive hard copy mailings only from CMP, you can contact us and request to have your name and address removed from the list we provide to third parties.

 

For California residents, please consult the “California Privacy Rights” section for additional considerations. 

 

Our processing of your data is based upon your consent, contract performance (e.g., your purchase of products), legitimate business interest (e.g., direct marketing of goods and services), or compliance with law.  You have the right to object to our processing of your data or to restrict our processing of your data. In addition, if you have consented to the processing of your Personal Data, you have the right to withdraw your consent at any time.

 

CALIFORNIA PRIVACY RIGHTS

In addition to the rights as explained in this Privacy Policy, under California law, California residents who provide personal information (as defined in the statute) to obtain products or services for personal, family, or household use are entitled to request and obtain from us, once a calendar year, information about the personal information we shared, if any, with other businesses for marketing uses. If applicable, this information would include the categories of personal information and the names and addresses of those businesses with which we shared such personal information for the immediately prior calendar year (e.g., requests made in the current year will receive information about the prior year).

 

To obtain this information please write to us at:

 

Unsolved

4303 Verdugo Ave.

Burbank, CA  91505

 

 Attn: CMP -- California Privacy Law.

 

Please include your full name and address.

 

CANADIAN ANTI-SPAM LAW

CMP complies with the Canada Anti-Spam Law which requires you to opt-in to receive unauthorized Commercial Electronic Messages (as defined under the Canada Anti-Spam Law).

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HOW WE PROTECT PERSONAL DATA

CMP implements commercially reasonable security measures to help protect against unauthorized access to or unauthorized alteration, disclosure, or destruction of data. Except for membership directories, membership lists and registration lists, and the sharing of information as set forth in this Privacy Policy, we restrict access to Personal Data to certain companies who need the data to operate, develop, or improve our services. These individuals or partner organizations are bound by confidentiality obligations and may be subject to discipline, including termination and criminal prosecution, if they fail to meet these obligations.

 

Unfortunately, no data transmission over the Internet or electronic storage is fully secure. Accordingly, and despite our reasonable efforts to protect your Personal Data from unauthorized access, use, or disclosure, CMP cannot guarantee or warrant the security of the Personal Data you transmit to us, or to or from our online Sites. If you have questions about this Privacy Policy, please contact us.

 

Certain areas of the Sites require the use of a user ID, email address, or password as an additional security measure that helps protect your Personal Data.  To help you protect your privacy, these Sites have tools to help you log in and log out.

ACCESSING, CHANGING AND DELETING PERSONAL INFORMATION

We rely on you to update and correct your Personal Data.  If you are a user of our Sites, subscriber to [CMP product], purchaser of CMP products and services, you can review, update and correct your information directly on CMP’s website or by contacting us using the information in the “Contact Information” section below.

 

Typically, we retain your Personal Data for the period necessary to fulfill the purposes outlined in this Privacy Policy, unless a longer retention period is required or permitted by law.  This may include retaining your Personal Data indefinitely, even after you are no longer a CMP member, in order to provide you with future marketing opportunities and other purposes, as well as to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, or enforce any of our agreements.  

 

Please note that you can request, at any time, that we delete your Personal Data.  All requests must be directed to the contact in the “Contact Information” section below.  We can decide to delete your Personal Data if we believe that the data is incomplete, inaccurate, or that our continued use and storage are contrary to our obligations to other members, individuals, or third parties.  When we delete your Personal Data, it will be removed from our active databases or anonymized so that the data is no longer identified with you, but the data may remain in our archives if CMP determines that it is not practical or possible to delete it.

Your Personal Data is processed in the United States, where privacy laws may be less stringent than the laws in your country and where the government, courts, or law enforcement may be able to access your data.  By submitting your Personal Data to us, you agree to the transfer, storage and processing of your Personal Data in the United States.

You, as the data subject, have the right to lodge a complaint with a supervisory authority, in particular in the Member State of your habitual residence, place of work, or place of the alleged infringement, if you believe that the processing of your personal data does not comply with legal requirements.

In the event we determine the occurrence of a data security incident, we will notify you by email, US mail, telephone, or other means as permitted by law.

If you have questions, comments, or complaints concerning our privacy practices or if you wish to change, access, or remove your Personal Data, please contact us as indicated below.  We will attempt, where practical, to respond to your requests and to provide you with additional privacy related information.

Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. is the owner of this Website and retains all ownership rights to the information collected at this Website. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. reserves the right to change, modify, add, or remove provisions of this Privacy Statement. Any changes to this Privacy Statement will be posted here, and we encourage you to check back from time to time. In addition, Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. will notify registered users of changes as they occur.

We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit networkadvertising.org. Your use of the site constitutes your agreement to accept cookies, beacons and third-party advertising. Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for third-party ads.

ARTICLE 1. Personalization
1.1 We may use the contact information you give us to better tailor your Website experience to your interests, and to send you information about Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. and its services as well as promotional material on behalf of some of our partners. We may use other information that you provide to us to show you content in which you may be interested and to display the content according to your preferences. We will also share this information within Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. in order to enhance your experience on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. Websites.
1.2 In addition, we may share this information with advertisers or other third parties that are not part of the Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. family on an aggregate or other basis that does not disclose your identity or contact information.

ARTICLE 2. Online Surveys/Contests
2.1 From time to time, we may conduct online surveys and contests. These may ask you for contact information (like name or email address) and demographic information (like zip code or age).
2.2 We may use this contact information from our surveys and contests to provide you with information about our company and promotional material on behalf of some of our partners, and to contact you when necessary.

ARTICLE 3. Shopping/Commercial Services
3.1 This Website may offer shopping services, which may be offered by us or by a firm that operates a store under contract with us. If our Website offers shopping or other commercial services, you will use a customer order form to request information, products, and services. The order form will ask you to give us contact information (like name or email address), financial information (like account or credit card numbers), and demographic information (like zip code or age).

3.2 We will use the financial information that you provide to bill you for products and services. By giving our Website your credit card and related personal information, you are authorizing our store to give that information to the merchant and credit card company in order to confirm and fulfill your order.

3.3 We will use contact information from the order form to fulfill your orders. We may also use contact data to get in touch with you when necessary. We will not otherwise use or distribute your financial information without your prior approval.

ARTICLE 4. Public forums
4.1 This Website may make available chat rooms, blogs, forums, message boards, and news groups. Please remember that any information that you disclose in these areas becomes public information and you should exercise caution when deciding to disclose your personal information. Information disclosed by you or by others enters the public domain and may be freely used by any other persons or entities using the site.

ARTICLE 5. Information Sharing With Third Parties
5.1 From time to time we may enter into a special relationship with another company that is not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. to provide additional features at this Website. These special relationships may include “powered by” partners, business partners, sponsors, and co-branded sites (referred to here as “co-branded pages”). These might include, for example, pages that share our name and that of another entity. You should look for a specific privacy statement on any such co-branded page. Any personal information that you provide when signing up at one of those co-branded pages may be shared with our third party partner. You should also check our partner’s website for information regarding its privacy policies.

5.2 Also, the nature of some features of our Website may require that we share personal information about you with persons or companies outside of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. For example, this may occur at a feature that enables you, via our Website, to ask questions of persons or entities that are not part of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. By responding to those features of the site, whether by email or direct entry of information on our Website, you are consenting to our transferring that information to such persons or entities.

5.3 With respect to specific registration modules, like contests, we may disclose personal information collected, and we may post a conspicuous statement on the registration module to the effect that we will be disclosing the information collected with third parties.

5.4 Finally, we may share any of the information collected from you with these other non- Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc companies in an aggregate basis. The aggregated information is not linked to any information that can identify you.

ARTICLE 6. IP Address and Log Files
6.1 We may use your IP address to administer our Website, to help diagnose problems with our server, to analyze trends, to track users’ webpage movements, to help identify you and your shopping cart, and to gather broad demographic information for aggregate use.

ARTICLE 7. Cookies
7.1 This Website may use a standard technology called a “cookie” to collect information about how you use the Website. Cookies reside on your computer and help our Website to recognize your computer’s browser as a previous visitor. This information allows us to customize delivery of information. For example, our Website may use cookies to save and remember registration information or preferences that you may have set while browsing the Website, to keep track of your shopping cart, to ensure you don’t see the same ad content repeatedly, to deliver content specific to your interests, and to save your password so you do not have to re-enter it each time you visit our site. We use cookies only to gather information as indicated in this policy.

7.2 In addition, on occasion our site may also set a “session cookie” which helps us administer the Website. The session cookie expires when you close your browser and does not retain any information about you after it expires.

7.3 Finally, we may also use an ad network provider to help present advertisements on this and other Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. websites. This ad network provider, like other advertising service vendors, uses cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies on the hard drive of your computer to serve you advertisements tailored to interests you have shown by browsing on this and other sites you have visited, and to determine whether you have seen a particular advertisement before and to avoid sending you duplicate advertisements. In doing so, the provider collects non-personal data such as your browser type, your operating system, web pages visited, time of visits, content viewed, ads viewed, and other clickstream data. The use of cookies, web beacons, or similar technologies by these ad network providers is subject to their own privacy policies, not ours, and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. assumes no responsibility for the collection or use of such information.

ARTICLE 8. Banner Advertising
8.1 We have contracted with an ad-service to place banner advertising on our Website. All of the data provided and generated by the ad-server software remains in our possession. This feature of our Website may, on occasion, set “cookies” on your computer. Any information collected or stored by the ad-service or the cookies is treated in the same manner as other information described in this statement.

ARTICLE 9. Children’s Personal Information
9.1 Consistent with the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act:

9.1.1 This site does NOT collect, use, or disclose personal information (including online contact information) of children under the age of thirteen (13).

9.1.2 In the event that a child under the age of 13 attempts to register on our site, we will NOT accept the registration and will delete information received from the child.

9.1.3 In the event that a child posts personal information in a public forum such as a chat room, we will attempt to delete that information once we become aware of it.

ARTICLE 10. Security of Your Personal Information
10.1 Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. employs reasonable security measures consistent with standard industry practice, for information collected through this Website. We believe that we have adequate security measures in place in our physical facilities to protect against the loss, misuse, or alteration of the information we collect on our Website. We also use internal protections to limit access to users’ personal information to only those employees who need the information to perform a specific job.

ARTICLE 11. Sale or Merger
11.1 If this Website is sold to, or merges with, another company not owned by Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc., you should expect that some or all of the information collected from this Website may be transferred to the buyer/surviving company. If so, CMP will seek to obligate the acquiring company to use any personal information transferred by this Website in a manner consistent with this statement, but cannot guarantee that it will be able to impose that requirement or that the acquiring company will comply.

ARTICLE 12. Legal Process
12.1 You should be aware that Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. may be required to disclose your personal information to the government or third parties under certain circumstances, such as in court or regulatory proceedings.

ARTICLE 13.  Contacting the Website

13.1        If you have any questions about this Privacy Statement, the practices of this Website, or your dealings with this Website, please contact us at: unsolved@unsolved.com.

ARTICLE 14.  general information

14.1        Choice of Law:  This Agreement and the Additional Terms shall be governed by, construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the State of California , as it is applied to agreements entered into and to be performed entirely within such state, without regard to conflict of law principles.

14.2        Choice of Forum:  You agree that any cause of action you or Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. brings to enforce this Agreement and/or the Additional Terms, or in connection with any matters related to this Website and/or the Privacy Statement, shall be submitted to arbitration in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, United States of America in accordance with the commercial rules and regulations of the American Arbitration Association then in effect (as amended herein), provided that said arbitration shall be heard before a single arbitrator, who shall be a retired judge, selected pursuant to such rules and regulations, and shall be conducted on an expedited basis and in confidence. The arbitrator’s decision shall be controlled by the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other agreements I may enter into with you, and shall be final and binding, and shall provide for each party to bear its own costs of arbitration and attorneys’ fees.  Each party expressly waives any right to a jury.  Judgment upon the award of the arbitrator may be entered or enforced in any court of competent jurisdiction. 

14.4        If any provision of this Agreement, or the application thereof to any person or circumstances, is held invalid or for any reason unenforceable then such provision shall be deemed superseded by a valid, enforceable provision that matches, as closely as possible, the original provision, and the other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.  The failure of either party to insist upon strict performance of any provision of this Agreement shall not be construed as a waiver of any provision or right.  Unless expressly provided otherwise, this Agreement is the entire agreement between you and Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. with respect to the use of this Website and shall not be modified except in writing, signed by an authorized representative of Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc.

ARTICLE 15.  European Union and Other Foreign Nations

15.1        This Website is governed by and operated in accordance with the laws of United States of America and is intended for enjoyment of residents of the United States.  Cosgrove Meurer Productions, Inc. makes no representation that this Website is governed by or operated in accordance with the laws of other nations.  By using this Website and submitting any personal information, visitors from outside of the United States acknowledge this Website is subject to U.S. law, consent to the transfer of personal data to the U.S., and waive any claims that may arise under their own national laws.